Since there's a thread for asking questions about atheism, I figured it would be fitting to have a thread asking questions about religion. I'm pretty curious as to how religious people think, and I'm sure other atheists here are too.
Atheists, ask questions. Religious people, answer them. Got it?
I'll kick this off:
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. Because their parents forced it on them, and kept them from anything else until they were old enough to be considered brain washed.
2. Haha, if they're like one of the people I just mention above, then of course not.
EDIT: Ok, wth, even on NSider, I keep spelling "just", "jsut". :\
Quote from: General Grievous on May 28, 2007, 09:34:36 PM
1. Because their parents forced it on them, and kept them from anything else until they were old enough to be considered brain washed.
2. Haha, if they're like one of the people I just mention above, then of course not.
That's what I'd think, although I want to hear what the religious guys have to say about it.
Quote from: General Grievous on May 28, 2007, 09:34:36 PM
EDIT: Ok, wth, even on NSider, I keep spelling "just", "jsut". :\
I keep hitting the semicolon key instead of the apostrophe key, so I keep typing don;t instead of don't. I don't know why this is happening.
Quote from: General Grievous on May 28, 2007, 09:34:36 PM
1. Because their parents forced it on them, and kept them from anything else until they were old enough to be considered brain washed.
2. Haha, if they're like one of the people I just mention above, then of course not.
EDIT: Ok, wth, even on NSider, I keep spelling "just", "jsut". :\
Wtf? Why don't you let the religious people answer the questions, k?
Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 09:38:45 PM
Quote from: General Grievous on May 28, 2007, 09:34:36 PM
1. Because their parents forced it on them, and kept them from anything else until they were old enough to be considered brain washed.
2. Haha, if they're like one of the people I just mention above, then of course not.
EDIT: Ok, wth, even on NSider, I keep spelling "just", "jsut". :\
Wtf? Why don't you let the religious people answer the questions, k?
Yeah, that would be nice. Now we just need a few religious people to show their faces.
Well, I am not TOO religious. I tend to not think about it, though I do believe there is a God. I guess most prefer to hope for something better than this life. Something at the end of this harsh test called "life".
1: I believe it because I want to believe it, no one is forcing me to. I have faith, and I don't care what any idotic atheist says about me. (Not saying all atheists are idiotic, just the ones that say things such as "U STOOPID FER HAVIN FAITH LOL")
2: I would like to look into what catholics believe in, and possibly a Nasorean.
Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 09:38:45 PM
Quote from: General Grievous on May 28, 2007, 09:34:36 PM
1. Because their parents forced it on them, and kept them from anything else until they were old enough to be considered brain washed.
2. Haha, if they're like one of the people I just mention above, then of course not.
EDIT: Ok, wth, even on NSider, I keep spelling "just", "jsut". :\
Wtf? Why don't you let the religious people answer the questions, k?
Of course. This was basically a joke, I know not all religous people are like this. But all of my friends that are religious, which aren't too many, are all stubborn bastardic bible humpers. I used the parental thing because everything about them, including how they come on religion, is so biased off their parents, it's ridiculous.
Quote from: General Grievous on May 28, 2007, 09:44:45 PM
Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 09:38:45 PM
Quote from: General Grievous on May 28, 2007, 09:34:36 PM
1. Because their parents forced it on them, and kept them from anything else until they were old enough to be considered brain washed.
2. Haha, if they're like one of the people I just mention above, then of course not.
EDIT: Ok, wth, even on NSider, I keep spelling "just", "jsut". :\
Wtf? Why don't you let the religious people answer the questions, k?
Or course. This was basically a joke, I know not all religous people are like this. But all of my friends that are religious, which aren't too many, are all stubborn bastardic bible humpers. I used the parental thing because everything about them, including how they come on religion, is so biased off their parents, it's ridiculous.
NO JOKING HERE. THIS ARE SERIOUS BOARD.
But I understand. I believe there is a God, but I am not blind to all the evidence against there being a possibility that there is no God.
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:43:19 PM
1: I believe it because I want to believe it, no one is forcing me to. I have faith, and I don't care what any idotic atheist says about me. (Not saying all atheists are idiotic, just the ones that say things such as "U STOOPID FER HAVIN FAITH LOL")
But why Christianity as opposed to, say, Hindu?
Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 09:46:30 PM
Quote from: General Grievous on May 28, 2007, 09:44:45 PM
Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 09:38:45 PM
Quote from: General Grievous on May 28, 2007, 09:34:36 PM
1. Because their parents forced it on them, and kept them from anything else until they were old enough to be considered brain washed.
2. Haha, if they're like one of the people I just mention above, then of course not.
EDIT: Ok, wth, even on NSider, I keep spelling "just", "jsut". :\
Wtf? Why don't you let the religious people answer the questions, k?
Or course. This was basically a joke, I know not all religous people are like this. But all of my friends that are religious, which aren't too many, are all stubborn bastardic bible humpers. I used the parental thing because everything about them, including how they come on religion, is so biased off their parents, it's ridiculous.
NO JOKING HERE. THIS ARE SERIOUS BOARD.
But I understand. I believe there is a God, but I am not blind to all the evidence against there being a possibility that there is no God.
But I said basically. Maybe deeper, it's more than a joke. v;
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:43:19 PM
1: I believe it because I want to believe it, no one is forcing me to. I have faith, and I don't care what any idotic atheist says about me. (Not saying all atheists are idiotic, just the ones that say things such as "U STOOPID FER HAVIN FAITH LOL")
But why Christianity as opposed to, say, Hindu?
While that one may not be all from their parents, I know their parents have an insanley huge effect on what exactly they choose to be.
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:43:19 PM
1: I believe it because I want to believe it, no one is forcing me to. I have faith, and I don't care what any idotic atheist says about me. (Not saying all atheists are idiotic, just the ones that say things such as "U STOOPID FER HAVIN FAITH LOL")
But why Christianity as opposed to, say, Hindu?
Now that depends on where the person was born
most of the time. If I was born in India, where Hinduism originated, most likely I would believe in that religion.
Quote from: General Grievous on May 28, 2007, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:43:19 PM
1: I believe it because I want to believe it, no one is forcing me to. I have faith, and I don't care what any idotic atheist says about me. (Not saying all atheists are idiotic, just the ones that say things such as "U STOOPID FER HAVIN FAITH LOL")
But why Christianity as opposed to, say, Hindu?
While that one may not be all from their parents, I know their parents have an insanley huge effect on what exactly they choose to be.
That's probably the most prominent factor. Most parents raise their children to mesh into society as much as possible without questioning the popular ideals.
I was a Christian way before my parents ever were. So don't try to play the influence card here.
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:53:57 PM
I was a Christian way before my parents ever were. So don't try to play the influence card here.
You still haven't answered my question.
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 09:55:15 PM
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:53:57 PM
I was a Christian way before my parents ever were. So don't try to play the influence card here.
You still haven't answered my question.
Which question?
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:55:50 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 09:55:15 PM
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:53:57 PM
I was a Christian way before my parents ever were. So don't try to play the influence card here.
You still haven't answered my question.
Which question?
What made you pick Christianity over all the other religions?
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 08:32:09 PM
Since there's a thread for asking questions about atheism, I figured it would be fitting to have a thread asking questions about religion. I'm pretty curious as to how religious people think, and I'm sure other atheists here are too.
Atheists, ask questions. Religious people, answer them. Got it?
I'll kick this off:
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
To be honest, I was born with my Mother believing this religion. Though it was not forced upon me, I had accepted it as my religion on my own.
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
No.
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 09:56:48 PM
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:55:50 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 09:55:15 PM
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:53:57 PM
I was a Christian way before my parents ever were. So don't try to play the influence card here.
You still haven't answered my question.
Which question?
What made you pick Christianity over all the other religions?
It makes more sense to me, it seems more reliable then some other religions.
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 10:01:16 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 09:56:48 PM
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Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:53:57 PM
I was a Christian way before my parents ever were. So don't try to play the influence card here.
You still haven't answered my question.
Which question?
What made you pick Christianity over all the other religions?
It makes more sense to me, it seems more reliable then some other religions.
More reliable? Explain.
Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 08:32:09 PM
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
No.
If you couldn't be Christian, what religion would you choose instead?
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 10:02:18 PM
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 10:01:16 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 09:56:48 PM
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:55:50 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 09:55:15 PM
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 09:53:57 PM
I was a Christian way before my parents ever were. So don't try to play the influence card here.
You still haven't answered my question.
Which question?
What made you pick Christianity over all the other religions?
It makes more sense to me, it seems more reliable then some other religions.
More reliable? Explain.
I understand it better then any other religion out there. This is really hard to do without you ending up calling me a "bible humper", don't know if you would. But I have seen people say that, that's why I haven't mentioned the Bible. But the Bible is why I find it more reliable.
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 08:32:09 PM
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
No.
If you couldn't be Christian, what religion would you choose instead?
I would be an atheist. There is so much evidence supporting that the world started because of evolution.
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 10:05:08 PM
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I was a Christian way before my parents ever were. So don't try to play the influence card here.
You still haven't answered my question.
Which question?
What made you pick Christianity over all the other religions?
It makes more sense to me, it seems more reliable then some other religions.
More reliable? Explain.
I understand it better then any other religion out there. This is really hard to do without you ending up calling me a "bible humper", don't know if you would. But I have seen people say that, that's why I haven't mentioned the Bible. But the Bible is why I find it more reliable.
I won't call you a bible thumper. Explain further.
Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 10:05:13 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 08:32:09 PM
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
No.
If you couldn't be Christian, what religion would you choose instead?
I would be an atheist. There is so much evidence supporting that the world started because of evolution.
Interesting answer. You seem to be more of the rational Christian types. I haven't seen much of this on the internet, although most of the Christians I know in real life are like this.
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 10:06:33 PM
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I was a Christian way before my parents ever were. So don't try to play the influence card here.
You still haven't answered my question.
Which question?
What made you pick Christianity over all the other religions?
It makes more sense to me, it seems more reliable then some other religions.
More reliable? Explain.
I understand it better then any other religion out there. This is really hard to do without you ending up calling me a "bible humper", don't know if you would. But I have seen people say that, that's why I haven't mentioned the Bible. But the Bible is why I find it more reliable.
I won't call you a bible thumper. Explain further.
The Bible has signs of things that are happening, even in the old testament it tells of things happening right now. All of these things are coming true, right here and now.
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 10:09:08 PM
Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 10:05:13 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 08:32:09 PM
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
No.
If you couldn't be Christian, what religion would you choose instead?
I would be an atheist. There is so much evidence supporting that the world started because of evolution.
Interesting answer. You seem to be more of the rational Christian types. I haven't seen much of this on the internet, although most of the Christians I know in real life are like this.
I guess that is a good thing, huh?
Quote from: Fireman.exe on May 28, 2007, 10:09:53 PM
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I was a Christian way before my parents ever were. So don't try to play the influence card here.
You still haven't answered my question.
Which question?
What made you pick Christianity over all the other religions?
It makes more sense to me, it seems more reliable then some other religions.
More reliable? Explain.
I understand it better then any other religion out there. This is really hard to do without you ending up calling me a "bible humper", don't know if you would. But I have seen people say that, that's why I haven't mentioned the Bible. But the Bible is why I find it more reliable.
I won't call you a bible thumper. Explain further.
The Bible has signs of things that are happening, even in the old testament it tells of things happening right now. All of these things are coming true, right here and now.
For example?
Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 10:10:16 PM
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Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 10:05:13 PM
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Quote from: V on May 28, 2007, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 08:32:09 PM
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
No.
If you couldn't be Christian, what religion would you choose instead?
I would be an atheist. There is so much evidence supporting that the world started because of evolution.
Interesting answer. You seem to be more of the rational Christian types. I haven't seen much of this on the internet, although most of the Christians I know in real life are like this.
I guess that is a good thing, huh?
I would say so. I don't have a problem with religion, I just have a problem with people being close-minded and ignorant about their religion. It's refreshing to see people who can be both religious and logical.
Another thing that sometimes pushes me to think there is no God is the fact that he/she is supposedly "all-knowing", so why does he/she let things that go on in life happen?
Rape, murder, all the sick things that happen. Why won't he simply stop this? It perplexes me beyond belief.. psyduck;
Quote from: Houdini on May 28, 2007, 08:32:09 PM
Since there's a thread for asking questions about atheism, I figured it would be fitting to have a thread asking questions about religion. I'm pretty curious as to how religious people think, and I'm sure other atheists here are too.
Atheists, ask questions. Religious people, answer them. Got it?
I'll kick this off:
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. I believe in my religion because a majority of people belive in what I belive in and that's not the only one. I believe in my religion because after life, I expect something good to happen after hoping for God. Anyways I don't really want to believe in other religions because it's commandment in my religion to not believe in other religions but the one I'm believing in right now.
2. Nope, because after what I learned in CCD (I don't know what it stands for but it means Church School.) . It kind of showed that my religion makes more sense than others.
Quote1. I believe in my religion because a majority of people belive in what I belive in
What will you do in about 50 years when approximately 30% of the population of earth is atheist or agnostic? Will you blindly follow that also?
QuoteAnyways I don't really want to believe in other religions because it's commandment in my religion to not believe in other religions but the one I'm believing in right now.
When someone has to tell you you can't even consider others ideas or possibilities, you know it's bullshit.
Quote2. Nope, because after what I learned in CCD (I don't know what it stands for but it means Church School.) . It kind of showed that my religion makes more sense than others.
Google-Define: propaganda
Hell, look at where the origins of the word come from:
2 ( Propaganda) a committee of cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church responsible for foreign missions, founded in 1622 by Pope Gregory XV.
Of course a Christian School is going to
tell you it makes sense; if they had let you think about it yourself, they know a good number would discover the flaws. Really, how logical is it for a man to build a boat that houses all of earth's species (in harmony); two lone people populating the earth, in turn sinning by making every relative have sex with every relative; and some "loving" invisible wizard creating all of this and making his own supposed children suffer?
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:14:12 AM
Quote1. I believe in my religion because a majority of people belive in what I belive in
What will you do in about 50 years when approximately 30% of the population of earth is atheist or agnostic? Will you blindly follow that also?
On top of that, people believed in a lot of stupid things
They amputated limbs. The arms that naturally healed were thought to have some sort of diseases, and were infected with actual bacteria from infected amputated limbs from other people.
People thought the world was flat.
People thought that there were witches.
A long time ago, people believed bathing was bad for you, so they rarely bathed.
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Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:14:12 AM
Quote1. I believe in my religion because a majority of people belive in what I belive in
What will you do in about 50 years when approximately 30% of the population of earth is atheist or agnostic? Will you blindly follow that also?
On top of that, people believed in a lot of stupid things
They amputated limbs. The arms that naturally healed were thought to have some sort of diseases, and were infected with actual bacteria from infected amputated limbs from other people.
People thought the world was flat.
People thought that there were witches.
A long time ago, people believed bathing was bad for you, so they rarely bathed.
Hell, the church even required that people believed the earth was flat and partaking in acts that required they be nude (bathing) was evil.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:14:12 AM
Quote1. I believe in my religion because a majority of people belive in what I belive in
What will you do in about 50 years when approximately 30% of the population of earth is atheist or agnostic? Will you blindly follow that also?
QuoteAnyways I don't really want to believe in other religions because it's commandment in my religion to not believe in other religions but the one I'm believing in right now.
When someone has to tell you you can't even consider others ideas or possibilities, you know it's bullshit.
Quote2. Nope, because after what I learned in CCD (I don't know what it stands for but it means Church School.) . It kind of showed that my religion makes more sense than others.
Google-Define: propaganda
Hell, look at where the origins of the word come from: 2 ( Propaganda) a committee of cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church responsible for foreign missions, founded in 1622 by Pope Gregory XV.
Of course a Christian School is going to tell you it makes sense; if they had let you think about it yourself, they know a good number would discover the flaws. Really, how logical is it for a man to build a boat that houses all of earth's species (in harmony); two lone people populating the earth, in turn sinning by making every relative have sex with every relative; and some "loving" invisible wizard creating all of this and making his own supposed children suffer?
1. I'll never follow athiests. You forgot to add this too: and that's not the only one. I believe in my religion because after life, I expect something good to happen after hoping for God.
QuoteAnyways I don't really want to believe in other religions because it's commandment in my religion to not believe in other religions but the one I'm believing in right now.
When someone has to tell you you can't even consider others ideas or possibilities, you know it's bullshit.
Actually, I don't care. Anyways it's only 10 commandments not really a big thing ubnless your dramatic and lazy.
Quote2. Nope, because after what I learned in CCD (I don't know what it stands for but it means Church School.) . It kind of showed that my religion makes more sense than others.
Google-Define: propaganda
Hell, look at where the origins of the word come from:
2 ( Propaganda) a committee of cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church responsible for foreign missions, founded in 1622 by Pope Gregory XV.
Of course a Christian School is going to
tell you it makes sense; if they had let you think about it yourself, they know a good number would discover the flaws. Really, how logical is it for a man to build a boat that houses all of earth's species (in harmony); two lone people populating the earth, in turn sinning by making every relative have sex with every relative; and some "loving" invisible wizard creating all of this and making his own supposed children suffer?
3. Actually, it made sense because I actually looked up incase if they were lying. Anyways, Noah made the boat in 40 days so he could of had enough time. Plus he's trying to save his life and other lives so would you try to build a boat in 40 days if your life depended on it?
Ugh I've ran out of time I'll continue this after school. Bye!
Quote1. I'll never follow athiests. You forgot to add this too: and that's not the only one. I believe in my religion because after life, I expect something good to happen after hoping for God.
It's been said many times: Christianity is not the only religion that believs in an afterlife. Some atheists even believe in an afterlife. What makes you so certain this Jesus fellow was so special?
Quote3. Actually, it made sense because I actually looked up incase if they were lying. Anyways, Noah made the boat in 40 days so he could of had enough time. Plus he's trying to save his life and other lives so would you try to build a boat in 40 days if your life depended on it?
"Looking up" something isn't enough. Think. Look at the flaws, the inconsistencies, the contradictions. The Bible is loaded with them, and it always has been.
If necessary, I could build a boat for
myself in s single day. Could I get lions and zebras or cats and rats to live together? Could I put every predatory species beside its prey and expect them to live peacefully? Never in my lifetime. Also, it's impossible in pretty much every aspect. The ship would be massive, and no man could ever build something that huge in that amount of time.It would take years upon years, and it would never sail. And do you not think having all of those animals inbreed would produce any negative effects?
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:35:46 AM
Quote1. I'll never follow athiests. You forgot to add this too: and that's not the only one. I believe in my religion because after life, I expect something good to happen after hoping for God.
It's been said many times: Christianity is not the only religion that believs in an afterlife. Some atheists even believe in an afterlife. What makes you so certain this Jesus fellow was so special?
Quote3. Actually, it made sense because I actually looked up incase if they were lying. Anyways, Noah made the boat in 40 days so he could of had enough time. Plus he's trying to save his life and other lives so would you try to build a boat in 40 days if your life depended on it?
"Looking up" something isn't enough. Think. Look at the flaws, the inconsistencies, the contradictions. The Bible is loaded with them, and it always has been.
If necessary, I could build a boat for myself in s single day. Could I get lions and zebras or cats and rats to live together? Could I put every predatory species beside its prey and expect them to live peacefully? Never in my lifetime. Also, it's impossible in pretty much every aspect. The ship would be massive, and no man could ever build something that huge in that amount of time.It would take years upon years, and it would never sail. And do you not think having all of those animals inbreed would produce any negative effects?
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Anyways, God could of helped him you know.
(I'm posting in school if you want to know incase your wondering why I'm here.)
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Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:35:46 AM
Quote1. I'll never follow athiests. You forgot to add this too: and that's not the only one. I believe in my religion because after life, I expect something good to happen after hoping for God.
It's been said many times: Christianity is not the only religion that believs in an afterlife. Some atheists even believe in an afterlife. What makes you so certain this Jesus fellow was so special?
Quote3. Actually, it made sense because I actually looked up incase if they were lying. Anyways, Noah made the boat in 40 days so he could of had enough time. Plus he's trying to save his life and other lives so would you try to build a boat in 40 days if your life depended on it?
"Looking up" something isn't enough. Think. Look at the flaws, the inconsistencies, the contradictions. The Bible is loaded with them, and it always has been.
If necessary, I could build a boat for myself in s single day. Could I get lions and zebras or cats and rats to live together? Could I put every predatory species beside its prey and expect them to live peacefully? Never in my lifetime. Also, it's impossible in pretty much every aspect. The ship would be massive, and no man could ever build something that huge in that amount of time.It would take years upon years, and it would never sail. And do you not think having all of those animals inbreed would produce any negative effects?
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Anyways, God could of helped him you know.
(I'm posting in school if you want to know incase your wondering why I'm here.)
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:35:46 AM
Quote1. I'll never follow athiests. You forgot to add this too: and that's not the only one. I believe in my religion because after life, I expect something good to happen after hoping for God.
It's been said many times: Christianity is not the only religion that believs in an afterlife. Some atheists even believe in an afterlife. What makes you so certain this Jesus fellow was so special?
Quote3. Actually, it made sense because I actually looked up incase if they were lying. Anyways, Noah made the boat in 40 days so he could of had enough time. Plus he's trying to save his life and other lives so would you try to build a boat in 40 days if your life depended on it?
"Looking up" something isn't enough. Think. Look at the flaws, the inconsistencies, the contradictions. The Bible is loaded with them, and it always has been.
If necessary, I could build a boat for myself in s single day. Could I get lions and zebras or cats and rats to live together? Could I put every predatory species beside its prey and expect them to live peacefully? Never in my lifetime. Also, it's impossible in pretty much every aspect. The ship would be massive, and no man could ever build something that huge in that amount of time.It would take years upon years, and it would never sail. And do you not think having all of those animals inbreed would produce any negative effects?
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Anyways, God could of helped him you know.
(I'm posting in school if you want to know incase your wondering why I'm here.)
Sorry, but god doesn't manifest a physical form, probably hasn't, probably won't until the second coming of Jesus. The boat would have sunk, actually, it would have fallen apart from the inside due to it's massive size.
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Anyways, God could of helped him you know.
(I'm posting in school if you want to know incase your wondering why I'm here.)
Jesus died 2,000 years ago. He couldn't have possibly made you. Who made you? Your parents. Who made them? Your grandparents. You were born, not made.
Then your supposed god made me atheist, amirite? I say it's the Flying Spaghetti Monster that's looking out for us, and you just haven't been touched by his noodily appendage.
It is said that God made Adam and Eve, blah, blah , blah.
Basically, if this is correct, we are all brothers and sisters, right?
We all descended from the same two people;IF this is true.
Quote from: V on May 29, 2007, 08:34:43 AM
It is said that God made Adam and Eve, blah, blah , blah.
Basically, if this is correct, we are all brothers and sisters, right?
We all descended from the same two people;IF this is true.
And is incest not a sin?
The entire human population is condemned to hell, so it's useless to waste time with religion.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 08:51:29 AM
Quote from: V on May 29, 2007, 08:34:43 AM
It is said that God made Adam and Eve, blah, blah , blah.
Basically, if this is correct, we are all brothers and sisters, right?
We all descended from the same two people;IF this is true.
And is incest not a sin?
The entire human population is condemned to hell, so it's useless to waste time with religion.
And that is where my conflict with religion arises. I am on the fence right now.
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. I wouldn't have a religion per say, I believe in god, but have no religion.
2. I believe all religions are true.
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Anyways, God could of helped him you know.
Goddamnit, it's not could
of, it's could
have. I can't begin to describe how much it pisses me off when people do this.
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 12:27:48 PM
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. I wouldn't have a religion per say, I believe in god, but have no religion.
2. I believe all religions are true.
Hmm, this sounds interesting. Tell me more.
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:33:30 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Anyways, God could of helped him you know.
Goddamnit, it's not could of, it's could have. I can't begin to describe how much it pisses me off when people do this.
Your just overreacting. educate;
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 01:35:57 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:33:30 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Anyways, God could of helped him you know.
Goddamnit, it's not could of, it's could have. I can't begin to describe how much it pisses me off when people do this.
Your just overreacting. educate;
You're not thinking it through yourself.
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:34:03 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 12:27:48 PM
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. I wouldn't have a religion per say, I believe in god, but have no religion.
2. I believe all religions are true.
Hmm, this sounds interesting. Tell me more.
What more is there to tell? O_o
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:34:03 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 12:27:48 PM
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. I wouldn't have a religion per say, I believe in god, but have no religion.
2. I believe all religions are true.
Hmm, this sounds interesting. Tell me more.
What more is there to tell? O_o
Tell me about how you believe all religions are true. How does that work for you? I'm just curious, mate.
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 01:35:57 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:33:30 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Anyways, God could of helped him you know.
Goddamnit, it's not could of, it's could have. I can't begin to describe how much it pisses me off when people do this.
Your just overreacting. educate;
I could kill you.
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 03:59:54 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 01:35:57 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:33:30 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Anyways, God could of helped him you know.
Goddamnit, it's not could of, it's could have. I can't begin to describe how much it pisses me off when people do this.
Your just overreacting. educate;
I could kill you.
Fine,
you're just overreacting.
Ugh. This thread is getting out of topic so don't reply to this anymore.
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:03:49 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 03:59:54 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 01:35:57 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:33:30 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Anyways, God could of helped him you know.
Goddamnit, it's not could of, it's could have. I can't begin to describe how much it pisses me off when people do this.
Your just overreacting. educate;
I could kill you.
Fine, you're just overreacting.
Ugh. This thread is getting out of topic so don't reply to this anymore.
Now you're just looking for excuses.
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:33:30 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Anyways, God could of helped him you know.
Goddamnit, it's not could of, it's could have. I can't begin to describe how much it pisses me off when people do this.
Stop bitching over minor errors, and focus on the topic. v;
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Wait, so you don't question something, because you respect it, but don't even care to think about if it's real?
Seriously, it's like one of those comedy movies that make fun of primitive humans. They worship some volcano, and give it "what it wants".
See, the difference is, Christiantiy was made on a whim, and volcanoes were there. This means that volcanoes can be studied as we get smarter, and we can disprove them, unlike religion. But with that said, it sounds smarter to worship a volcano, being as we actually know it's right there, rather than something a book says.
Hell, I read, but I don't go running around waving a stick around yelling "ABRA KADABRA" like Harry Potter, believing magic is real. I think the bible was taken far too seriously.
Really though, I have no problem with religion. You can go ahead and close your minds to one idea, it doesn't bother me. What does, is when it comes into play with government. That really pisses me off. Thankfully, that doesn't happen very often....
Quote from: General Grievous on May 29, 2007, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Wait, so you don't question something, because you respect it, but don't even care to think about if it's real?
Seriously, it's like one of those comedy movies that make fun of primitive humans. They worship some volcano, and give it "what it wants".
See, the difference is, Christiantiy was made on a whim, and volcanoes were there. This means that volcanoes can be studied as we get smarter, and we can disprove them, unlike religion. But with that said, it sounds smarter to worship a volcano, being as we actually know it's right there, rather than something a book says.
Hell, I read, but I don't go running around waving a stick around yelling "ABRA KADABRA" like Harry Potter, believing magic is real. I think the bible was taken far too seriously.
Really though, I have no problem with religion. You can go ahead and close your minds to one idea, it doesn't bother me. What does, is when it comes into play with government. That really pisses me off. Thankfully, that doesn't happen very often....
I care if it's real and that's why I worship.educate;
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:32:16 PM
Quote from: General Grievous on May 29, 2007, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Wait, so you don't question something, because you respect it, but don't even care to think about if it's real?
Seriously, it's like one of those comedy movies that make fun of primitive humans. They worship some volcano, and give it "what it wants".
See, the difference is, Christiantiy was made on a whim, and volcanoes were there. This means that volcanoes can be studied as we get smarter, and we can disprove them, unlike religion. But with that said, it sounds smarter to worship a volcano, being as we actually know it's right there, rather than something a book says.
Hell, I read, but I don't go running around waving a stick around yelling "ABRA KADABRA" like Harry Potter, believing magic is real. I think the bible was taken far too seriously.
Really though, I have no problem with religion. You can go ahead and close your minds to one idea, it doesn't bother me. What does, is when it comes into play with government. That really pisses me off. Thankfully, that doesn't happen very often....
I care if it's real and that's why I worship.educate;
You make sacrifices to the almighty volcano? magician;
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:33:25 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:32:16 PM
Quote from: General Grievous on May 29, 2007, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Wait, so you don't question something, because you respect it, but don't even care to think about if it's real?
Seriously, it's like one of those comedy movies that make fun of primitive humans. They worship some volcano, and give it "what it wants".
See, the difference is, Christiantiy was made on a whim, and volcanoes were there. This means that volcanoes can be studied as we get smarter, and we can disprove them, unlike religion. But with that said, it sounds smarter to worship a volcano, being as we actually know it's right there, rather than something a book says.
Hell, I read, but I don't go running around waving a stick around yelling "ABRA KADABRA" like Harry Potter, believing magic is real. I think the bible was taken far too seriously.
Really though, I have no problem with religion. You can go ahead and close your minds to one idea, it doesn't bother me. What does, is when it comes into play with government. That really pisses me off. Thankfully, that doesn't happen very often....
I care if it's real and that's why I worship.educate;
You make sacrifices to the almighty volcano? magician;
No, sacraficing is a sin to me.
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:35:32 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:33:25 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:32:16 PM
Quote from: General Grievous on May 29, 2007, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Wait, so you don't question something, because you respect it, but don't even care to think about if it's real?
Seriously, it's like one of those comedy movies that make fun of primitive humans. They worship some volcano, and give it "what it wants".
See, the difference is, Christiantiy was made on a whim, and volcanoes were there. This means that volcanoes can be studied as we get smarter, and we can disprove them, unlike religion. But with that said, it sounds smarter to worship a volcano, being as we actually know it's right there, rather than something a book says.
Hell, I read, but I don't go running around waving a stick around yelling "ABRA KADABRA" like Harry Potter, believing magic is real. I think the bible was taken far too seriously.
Really though, I have no problem with religion. You can go ahead and close your minds to one idea, it doesn't bother me. What does, is when it comes into play with government. That really pisses me off. Thankfully, that doesn't happen very often....
I care if it's real and that's why I worship.educate;
You make sacrifices to the almighty volcano? magician;
No, sacraficing is a sin to me.
Worshipping anything other than the great noodily one is a sin to me. Once you're touched by His noodily appendage, you'll understand everything.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:36:45 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:35:32 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:33:25 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:32:16 PM
Quote from: General Grievous on May 29, 2007, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Wait, so you don't question something, because you respect it, but don't even care to think about if it's real?
Seriously, it's like one of those comedy movies that make fun of primitive humans. They worship some volcano, and give it "what it wants".
See, the difference is, Christiantiy was made on a whim, and volcanoes were there. This means that volcanoes can be studied as we get smarter, and we can disprove them, unlike religion. But with that said, it sounds smarter to worship a volcano, being as we actually know it's right there, rather than something a book says.
Hell, I read, but I don't go running around waving a stick around yelling "ABRA KADABRA" like Harry Potter, believing magic is real. I think the bible was taken far too seriously.
Really though, I have no problem with religion. You can go ahead and close your minds to one idea, it doesn't bother me. What does, is when it comes into play with government. That really pisses me off. Thankfully, that doesn't happen very often....
I care if it's real and that's why I worship.educate;
You make sacrifices to the almighty volcano? magician;
No, sacraficing is a sin to me.
Worshipping anything other than the great noodily one is a sin to me. Once you're touched by His noodily appendage, you'll understand everything.
Understanding everything that you understand? Sorry but I want to be myself,but thanks. flower;
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:36:45 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:35:32 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:33:25 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:32:16 PM
Quote from: General Grievous on May 29, 2007, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Wait, so you don't question something, because you respect it, but don't even care to think about if it's real?
Seriously, it's like one of those comedy movies that make fun of primitive humans. They worship some volcano, and give it "what it wants".
See, the difference is, Christiantiy was made on a whim, and volcanoes were there. This means that volcanoes can be studied as we get smarter, and we can disprove them, unlike religion. But with that said, it sounds smarter to worship a volcano, being as we actually know it's right there, rather than something a book says.
Hell, I read, but I don't go running around waving a stick around yelling "ABRA KADABRA" like Harry Potter, believing magic is real. I think the bible was taken far too seriously.
Really though, I have no problem with religion. You can go ahead and close your minds to one idea, it doesn't bother me. What does, is when it comes into play with government. That really pisses me off. Thankfully, that doesn't happen very often....
I care if it's real and that's why I worship.educate;
You make sacrifices to the almighty volcano? magician;
No, sacraficing is a sin to me.
Worshipping anything other than the great noodily one is a sin to me. Once you're touched by His noodily appendage, you'll understand everything.
Understanding everything that you understand? Sorry but I want to be myself,but thanks. flower;
So you wish to remain ignorant and oblivious to the information around you?
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:41:57 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:36:45 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:35:32 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:33:25 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:32:16 PM
Quote from: General Grievous on May 29, 2007, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Wait, so you don't question something, because you respect it, but don't even care to think about if it's real?
Seriously, it's like one of those comedy movies that make fun of primitive humans. They worship some volcano, and give it "what it wants".
See, the difference is, Christiantiy was made on a whim, and volcanoes were there. This means that volcanoes can be studied as we get smarter, and we can disprove them, unlike religion. But with that said, it sounds smarter to worship a volcano, being as we actually know it's right there, rather than something a book says.
Hell, I read, but I don't go running around waving a stick around yelling "ABRA KADABRA" like Harry Potter, believing magic is real. I think the bible was taken far too seriously.
Really though, I have no problem with religion. You can go ahead and close your minds to one idea, it doesn't bother me. What does, is when it comes into play with government. That really pisses me off. Thankfully, that doesn't happen very often....
I care if it's real and that's why I worship.educate;
You make sacrifices to the almighty volcano? magician;
No, sacraficing is a sin to me.
Worshipping anything other than the great noodily one is a sin to me. Once you're touched by His noodily appendage, you'll understand everything.
Understanding everything that you understand? Sorry but I want to be myself,but thanks. flower;
So you wish to remain ignorant and oblivious to the information around you?
No, I just reject being athiest is all.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:41:57 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:36:45 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:35:32 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 29, 2007, 05:33:25 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 05:32:16 PM
Quote from: General Grievous on May 29, 2007, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 29, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
Because unlike you, I appriciate and respect Jesus and God for making me and other people who've made my life better.
Wait, so you don't question something, because you respect it, but don't even care to think about if it's real?
Seriously, it's like one of those comedy movies that make fun of primitive humans. They worship some volcano, and give it "what it wants".
See, the difference is, Christiantiy was made on a whim, and volcanoes were there. This means that volcanoes can be studied as we get smarter, and we can disprove them, unlike religion. But with that said, it sounds smarter to worship a volcano, being as we actually know it's right there, rather than something a book says.
Hell, I read, but I don't go running around waving a stick around yelling "ABRA KADABRA" like Harry Potter, believing magic is real. I think the bible was taken far too seriously.
Really though, I have no problem with religion. You can go ahead and close your minds to one idea, it doesn't bother me. What does, is when it comes into play with government. That really pisses me off. Thankfully, that doesn't happen very often....
I care if it's real and that's why I worship.educate;
You make sacrifices to the almighty volcano? magician;
No, sacraficing is a sin to me.
Worshipping anything other than the great noodily one is a sin to me. Once you're touched by His noodily appendage, you'll understand everything.
Understanding everything that you understand? Sorry but I want to be myself,but thanks. flower;
So you wish to remain ignorant and oblivious to the information around you?
And how is that being yourself, anyways? psyduck;
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 03:59:28 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:34:03 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 12:27:48 PM
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. I wouldn't have a religion per say, I believe in god, but have no religion.
2. I believe all religions are true.
Hmm, this sounds interesting. Tell me more.
What more is there to tell? O_o
Tell me about how you believe all religions are true. How does that work for you? I'm just curious, mate.
Religons are just beliefs? Well, I think all these are true. It's kind of confusing. I can't explain it, I just believe in all religions. For example, there may be a god, but we may have evolved from monkeys. God may have put monkeys on this earth for them to evolve.
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 07:25:37 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 03:59:28 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:34:03 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 12:27:48 PM
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. I wouldn't have a religion per say, I believe in god, but have no religion.
2. I believe all religions are true.
Hmm, this sounds interesting. Tell me more.
What more is there to tell? O_o
Tell me about how you believe all religions are true. How does that work for you? I'm just curious, mate.
Religons are just beliefs? Well, I think all these are true. It's kind of confusing. I can't explain it, I just believe in all religions. For example, there may be a god, but we may have evolved from monkeys. God may have put monkeys on this earth for them to evolve.
So true.
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 30, 2007, 01:50:50 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 07:25:37 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 03:59:28 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:34:03 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 12:27:48 PM
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. I wouldn't have a religion per say, I believe in god, but have no religion.
2. I believe all religions are true.
Hmm, this sounds interesting. Tell me more.
What more is there to tell? O_o
Tell me about how you believe all religions are true. How does that work for you? I'm just curious, mate.
Religons are just beliefs? Well, I think all these are true. It's kind of confusing. I can't explain it, I just believe in all religions. For example, there may be a god, but we may have evolved from monkeys. God may have put monkeys on this earth for them to evolve.
So true.
Atheism is also a belief. A belief in no deity.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 30, 2007, 01:52:10 PM
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Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:34:03 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 12:27:48 PM
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. I wouldn't have a religion per say, I believe in god, but have no religion.
2. I believe all religions are true.
Hmm, this sounds interesting. Tell me more.
What more is there to tell? O_o
Tell me about how you believe all religions are true. How does that work for you? I'm just curious, mate.
Religons are just beliefs? Well, I think all these are true. It's kind of confusing. I can't explain it, I just believe in all religions. For example, there may be a god, but we may have evolved from monkeys. God may have put monkeys on this earth for them to evolve.
So true.
Atheism is also a belief. A belief in no deity.
There may be no god, who knows. We won't find out till we die.
Quote from: iWolf on May 30, 2007, 07:18:25 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 30, 2007, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: Original_MIB on May 30, 2007, 01:50:50 PM
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Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 03:59:28 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 29, 2007, 01:34:03 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 29, 2007, 12:27:48 PM
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. I wouldn't have a religion per say, I believe in god, but have no religion.
2. I believe all religions are true.
Hmm, this sounds interesting. Tell me more.
What more is there to tell? O_o
Tell me about how you believe all religions are true. How does that work for you? I'm just curious, mate.
Religons are just beliefs? Well, I think all these are true. It's kind of confusing. I can't explain it, I just believe in all religions. For example, there may be a god, but we may have evolved from monkeys. God may have put monkeys on this earth for them to evolve.
So true.
Atheism is also a belief. A belief in no deity.
There may be no god, who knows. We won't find out till we die.
And we'll just have to have faith. educate;
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1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. I wouldn't have a religion per say, I believe in god, but have no religion.
2. I believe all religions are true.
Hmm, this sounds interesting. Tell me more.
What more is there to tell? O_o
Tell me about how you believe all religions are true. How does that work for you? I'm just curious, mate.
Religons are just beliefs? Well, I think all these are true. It's kind of confusing. I can't explain it, I just believe in all religions. For example, there may be a god, but we may have evolved from monkeys. God may have put monkeys on this earth for them to evolve.
So true.
Atheism is also a belief. A belief in no deity.
There may be no god, who knows. We won't find out till we die.
And we'll just have to have faith. educate;
Honestly, if god is like people make him out to be, I don't want to believe in him. If we go to hell for not believing in him, what kind of god is he.
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1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
1. I wouldn't have a religion per say, I believe in god, but have no religion.
2. I believe all religions are true.
Hmm, this sounds interesting. Tell me more.
What more is there to tell? O_o
Tell me about how you believe all religions are true. How does that work for you? I'm just curious, mate.
Religons are just beliefs? Well, I think all these are true. It's kind of confusing. I can't explain it, I just believe in all religions. For example, there may be a god, but we may have evolved from monkeys. God may have put monkeys on this earth for them to evolve.
So true.
Atheism is also a belief. A belief in no deity.
There may be no god, who knows. We won't find out till we die.
And we'll just have to have faith. educate;
Honestly, if god is like people make him out to be, I don't want to believe in him. If we go to hell for not believing in him, what kind of god is he.
Seriously, if there is a god and he will send you to hell for not believing in him, than fuck him.
Bump because this topic is good.
QuoteHonestly, if god is like people make him out to be, I don't want to believe in him. If we go to hell for not believing in him, what kind of god is he.
best circular reasoning ever.
QuoteHonestly, the Judeo-Christian conception of God does not deserve worship. Any being in whom people must believe and to whom people must devote their lives--given only the alternative of facing eternal punishment in hell--is a tyrant that ought to be overthrown rather than exalted.
Revised for Veal.
semantics is dumb akudood;
Quote from: Veal on April 08, 2009, 08:28:26 PM
semantics is dumb akudood;
Semitics are dumb akudood;
Words confuse me.
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Revised for Veal.
If he created you, he has ever right to demand that you worship him.
Quote from: Zach on April 09, 2009, 09:00:06 AM
If he created you, he has ever right to demand that you worship him.
Does Yahweh have self esteem issues? :(
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Does Yahweh have self esteem issues? :(
Probably. I don't know.
Quote from: Zach on April 09, 2009, 09:12:05 AM
Probably. I don't know.
Is he not
perfect though?
Why would he need imperfect beings worshipping him by force?
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If he created you, he has ever right to demand that you worship him.
Nope. That's the mindset of abjection that religion has perpetuated in people throughout history. It's probably its most sickening aspect. If we are nothing more than the playthings of a spiteful despot in the sky, then life truly is more worthless and meaningless than one could possibly imagine.
we r all pupits!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 09, 2009, 11:24:06 AM
we r all pupits!!!!!!!!
we can mispell werdz on purpose!!!!!!!!
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Nope. That's the mindset of abjection that religion has perpetuated in people throughout history. It's probably its most sickening aspect. If we are nothing more than the playthings of a spiteful despot in the sky, then life truly is more worthless and meaningless than one could possibly imagine.
Well, it's not like you HAVE to worship him. He expects you to, but he knows whether you will or not before you're even conceived. Sure, it IS sickening how religion has affected people throughout history. The Muslims and the Jews. The Jews to the Canannites and the Gentiles. The medieval Catholics to everybody. But that doesn't mean that EVERYBODY who is religious is the exact same way. Have you seen me on here trying to sway any of you over to God? No, you haven't. I know that it won't work. I'm not going to play Big Brother here and have you believe something you don't.
That's your choice.
Quote from: PuuMastaFunk on April 17, 2009, 03:13:10 PM
Well, it's not like you HAVE to worship him. He expects you to, but he knows whether you will or not before you're even conceived.
That's not fair. ]:
Quote from: PuuMastaFunk on April 17, 2009, 03:13:10 PM
Well, it's not like you HAVE to worship him. He expects you to, but he knows whether you will or not before you're even conceived.
So, assuming that your notion of god is true, there's no punishment for not worshiping or acknowledging him at all, right? If not, then he's not benevolent.
QuoteSure, it IS sickening how religion has affected people throughout history. The Muslims and the Jews. The Jews to the Canannites and the Gentiles. The medieval Catholics to everybody. But that doesn't mean that EVERYBODY who is religious is the exact same way. Have you seen me on here trying to sway any of you over to God? No, you haven't. I know that it won't work. I'm not going to play Big Brother here and have you believe something you don't.
I wasn't necessarily referring to religious wars and oppression and so forth, nor was I implying that all religious people are modern day Crusaders. When I say that it's sickening, I mean the doctrine of Christianity itself and the mindset that it instills in people--specifically, the idea that, under the threat of eternal punishment in hell, we must always grovel at the feet of an omnipotent being in the sky, praising him nonstop, thanking him for all that we have, begging him for forgiveness whenever we may have done something to displease him. We are all burdened by Original Sin and must always plead to god to be cleansed, knowing full well that we will never live up to the ideal that Christianity sets for us and thus will always 'fall short of the glory of god,' as I think it's said. Here,
god is Big Brother. I don't think that this is a particularly healthy or positive thing to believe in, hence why I called it sickening.
This isn't the reason for why I don't believe in the god of Christianity; it's just my opinion on what I believe to be Christianity's worst, most degrading, most objectionable aspect (although I'm sure what I've said could also apply to the gods of other religions as well).
Quote from: PuuMastaFunk on April 17, 2009, 05:02:23 PMIt IS fair. He created you.
Creation does not imply ownership. Humans aren't just the toys of a supernatural being, obligated to do whatever he demands of us. My parents don't have any right to own me simply because they created me, and the same would apply to a god if one existed.
Quote from: Slim on April 17, 2009, 07:36:30 PM
So, assuming that your notion of god is true, there's no punishment for not worshiping or acknowledging him at all, right? If not, then he's not benevolent.
Yes, there is a punishment, Slim. It's called hell. You don't have to worship him, and you won't be punished right off, but by remaining lost, you place yourself into hell.
QuoteI wasn't necessarily referring to religious wars and oppression and so forth, nor was I implying that all religious people are modern day Crusaders. When I say that it's sickening, I mean the doctrine of Christianity itself and the mindset that it instills in people--specifically, the idea that, under the threat of eternal punishment in hell, we must always grovel at the feet of an omnipotent being in the sky, praising him nonstop, thanking him for all that we have, begging him for forgiveness whenever we may have done something to displease him. We are all burdened by Original Sin and must always plead to god to be cleansed, knowing full well that we will never live up to the ideal that Christianity sets for us and thus will always 'fall short of the glory of god,' as I think it's said. Here, god is Big Brother. I don't think that this is a particularly healthy or positive thing to believe in, hence why I called it sickening.
Sorry I misunderstood. But you're not supposed to worship him because you're afraid of hell. You're supposed to worship him because you love him. Of course we'll never live up to the expectation to Christianity. Everyone knows that. Anyone who says they live perfectly is a damn liar. Look at me! I swear. I say perverted things. And there's even more to that that none of you even know, or ever will. But the point of the Laws of Christianity is to
strive for perfection. You're not supposed to be God. You're supposed to
try to be like him. That's the whole point. The fact that you try to be a divine and holy person, even though you know that, in the end, you're going to fail, is exactly what God's looking for. God doesn't want perfection. He already has that.
And to me, it's not sickening at all. I want to be perfect. I want to be like Jesus was when he was on Earth, even though I know I'm far from it. I try my best every day to be a better person. Does it work. Hell no. But I tried. I tried yesterday, too. And, I can assure you, I'll be working on it tomorrow. It
is healthy, because you're trying to do right by God. You're supposed to set an example.
QuoteThis isn't the reason for why I don't believe in the god of Christianity; it's just my opinion on what I believe to be Christianity's worst, most degrading, most objectionable aspect (although I'm sure what I've said could also apply to the gods of other religions as well).
Okay, you have a point. Not many Christians have done a very good job being examples, have they? But have you seen the state of the world? It's at a point where everybody is into the mindset of, "Well, someone else will do it, anyways, so why should I?" But that's what makes the problem worse! When everybody in the world, minus a handful of people, are waiting on someone else to do the job, it puts so much more onto the shoulders of the ones who are willing to fix things. Do you know how discouraging that is? If that happened to me, I certainly wouldn't want to do any work. It'd be too damn hard to pick up other people's slack, and I don't have anything to offer to begin with.
QuoteCreation does not imply ownership. Humans aren't just the toys of a supernatural being, obligated to do whatever he demands of us. My parents don't have any right to own me simply because they created me, and the same would apply to a god if one existed.
Hm...maybe not. But maybe so. You're parents own you, atleast until you turn 18, no matter how big of a rebellion you put up. If you had kids, you'd feel the same way. And if that doesn't count, well, he's the person who made you you. He gave you the personal skills you have, your personality, everything about you.
The views expressed above are solely those of the Bowser_Boy and do not reflect the views of the Christians everywhere.
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The views expressed above are solely those of the Bowser_Boy and do not reflect the views of the Christians everywhere.
Too late. The damage is done.
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The views expressed above are solely those of the Bowser_Boy and do not reflect the views of the Christians everywhere.
okay so can this go for atheists and jmv too baddood;
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okay so can this go for atheists and jmv too baddood;
No, we're all heartless and stubborn like James. <3
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okay so can this go for atheists and jmv too baddood;
yeah other atheists don't believe there is no god
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yeah other atheists don't believe there is no god
Then what do atheists believe?
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yeah other atheists don't believe there is no god
Stop being sarcastic on the Serious Discussion board, it's confusing certain (^^^^^^^^^^^^^) people.
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Stop being sarcastic on the Serious Discussion board, it's confusing certain (^^^^^^^^^^^^^) people.
I'm not confused.
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I'm not confused.
Well that would take a whole 'nother thread to debate.
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Well that would take a whole 'nother thread to debate.
Why? I'm now the only freaking person answering the damn questions.
Quote from: PuuMastaFunk on April 17, 2009, 05:02:23 PM
It IS fair. He created you.
Why does he expect that when he already knows what they're going to do before they are even conceived?
Why expect something when you already know what's going to happen?
Wow. doodthing;
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Wow. doodthing;
shamwow you'll be saying wow every time baddood;
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shamwow you'll be saying wow every time baddood;
I heard he's a murderer now. n_u
Hey, if any of you religious folks feel like answering some more questions, I have a few things I'm curious about:
Do you think the world would be an overall better place if everyone was a member of your religion, or do you think it would be more or less the same?
Do you consider yourself morally superior to people of other religions? If so, why?
Would you ever consider converting to another religion? If so, which ones seem attractive to you?
If, in the future, science somehow conclusively proved that your beliefs are untrue, would you still believe in them?
Quote from: Houdini on April 22, 2009, 05:10:11 PM
Hey, if any of you religious folks feel like answering some more questions, I have a few things I'm curious about:
Do you think the world would be an overall better place if everyone was a member of your religion, or do you think it would be more or less the same?
I don't think it would. I mean, even though we'd all believe the same, but we wouldn't all agree. There would be confusion of the word, because even different denominations of Christianity are different. Plus, religious leaders would get a bigger head than they already do now. Thier ego would be through the roof. They'd twist the word to fit thier own benefit.
QuoteDo you consider yourself morally superior to people of other religions? If so, why?
Actually, no. I feel like I'm a hypocrite most of the time. Even though I actually try really hard not to sin, I still do. There was a girl from Indonesia who transfered to my school last year, and she was Buddist. Not only that, but she was a better Buddist than I was a Christian.
QuoteWould you ever consider converting to another religion? If so, which ones seem attractive to you?
I would if you have asked me 5-6 years ago, but not now. But thinking back on it, I don't know if I even would have. Christianity just seemes to be for me.
QuoteIf, in the future, science somehow conclusively proved that your beliefs are untrue, would you still believe in them?
If they had definate, undeniable fact that there was no God, yes. But until then (and that's not going to happen until I die), I'm stickin' to my faith.
Any other questions?
yes.
What, to you, makes your religion more plausible/true than other religions?
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yes.
What, to you, makes your religion more plausible/true than other religions?
I don't think my religion is more plausible. It just makes more sense to me, for some reason. It really appeals to me, and that's the reason why I believe. If anything, the reason why I feel it's more true is because I just feel like it's right. I have no other explanation than that.
Like I've said before, it's a choice.
Quote from: Houdini on April 22, 2009, 05:10:11 PM
Do you think the world would be an overall better place if everyone was a member of your religion, or do you think it would be more or less the same?
If everyone was interested in truly following the teachings of Christ (which most, including myself, don't really do), then the world would be a much better place. Christ taught that we should be kind, gentle, forgiving, and non-violent.
QuoteDo you consider yourself morally superior to people of other religions? If so, why?
No - as a Christian, one is no different from anyone else except that their sin has been forgiven by God. They will still struggle with sin in their life, but they will be accepted by the Father into Heaven.
QuoteWould you ever consider converting to another religion? If so, which ones seem attractive to you?
No.
QuoteIf, in the future, science somehow conclusively proved that your beliefs are untrue, would you still believe in them?
Yes.
Quote from: Houdini on April 22, 2009, 05:10:11 PM
Hey, if any of you religious folks feel like answering some more questions, I have a few things I'm curious about:
Do you think the world would be an overall better place if everyone was a member of your religion, or do you think it would be more or less the same?
Possibly... if everyone was under one religion which preached peace then perhaps the world would be improved ideally... although it's also possible that a theocratic society would just lead to oppression of those deemed sinful. I don't really want this scenerio to occur, if that's what you're asking
Quote from: Houdini on April 22, 2009, 05:10:11 PM
Do you consider yourself morally superior to people of other religions? If so, why?
Not really... maybe above "religions" like the Westboro Baptist Church which is founded on hate. As far as I'm concerned most of them are morally sound
Quote from: Houdini on April 22, 2009, 05:10:11 PM
Would you ever consider converting to another religion? If so, which ones seem attractive to you?
Not really... I mean I don't think you really need to be under a specific group to be able to believe what you want. I think organized religion is useful in that it forms a community who more or less share the same principles who can get together and discuss how they can go about improving themselves and the world around them.
Quote from: Houdini on April 22, 2009, 05:10:11 PM
If, in the future, science somehow conclusively proved that your beliefs are untrue, would you still believe in them?
I guess not, but I don't see that situation ever occurring
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
I want something to believe in and I can agree with some of the guidelines and philosophical guidelines that come with my religion for living a proper life, yet I choose to make my own decisions I still do let my religion have say in my decision. It's a rule set and something for me to have faith in. I don't have to follow it, and like any Christian I've sinned. Part of life, but I can try not to do it so often. Live life.
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion other than the one you were raised to believe in?
Considered Atheism, but I chose to be Christianity in in the end. It probably is because I was raised into it, but I'm really not hurting anybody by being a Christian. I have to have faith in my religion, and I may not go to church every single week, but I'm still a Christian. I try to be and it's just my life.
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1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
- Nothing=Neutral=/=Bad
- Archeologists' findings.
(I once watched this Educational Geographic movie where some archeologists claimed to have been near where the Garden of Eden was said to be found, with their results of their research. They said that...(memory's fading)that they felt they were in the place, because they've experienced such a beautiful environment and it was very peaceful.)
- Historians' findings.
- I believe in God.
Telemantros and Dr. William Lane Craig strengthened my beliefs.
2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion/philosophy other than the one you were raised to believe in?
Buddhism
Athiesm
Nihilist
Evolutionist
Anyway, I'm not too religious, but I'll always believe that there is a god.
Quote from: Original_MIB on April 27, 2009, 01:59:37 PM
1. Why do you believe in your religion out of all the religions out there?
- Nothing=Neutral=/=Bad
wut.
Nothing != Neutral
Nothing = Lack of anything.
Neutral = Neither good or bad.
therefore:
Lack of anything != Neither good or bad
also
!= || ≠> =/=
Quote- Archeologists' findings.
(I once watched this Educational Geographic movie where some archeologists claimed to have been near where the Garden of Eden was said to be found, with their results of their research. They said that...(memory's fading)that they felt they were in the place, because they've experienced such a beautiful environment and it was very peaceful.)
wut.
Are you referring to this? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1157784/Do-mysterious-stones-mark-site-Garden-Eden.html) because The Daily Mail is full of bullshit(not just on this. It's borderline tabloid. )
As for archeological finds where someone claims to actually find a magical bible land, the archeologist is usually ridiculed and not taken seriously and for good reason.
I've been some beautiful, peaceful woods around here. It doesn't mean that I found the Garden of Eden.
Quote- Historians' findings.
Like what? People living in the Americas hundreds thousands of years before God supposedly made the world?
oh but it's not a literal creation story jmv except how the previous part how i used the garden of eden as my argument. akudood;
Quote- I believe in God.
Other religions believe in a God too. What makes you so sure yours are just as accurate?
QuoteTelemantros
wut.
magneto
What the fuck is a telemantros
Quoteand Dr. William Lane Craig strengthened my beliefs.
Like I said before, Craig uses silly arguments based on circular logic and no actual facts.
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2. Have you ever considered partaking in a religion/philosophy other than the one you were raised to believe in?
OH BOY
QuoteBuddhism
ok
QuoteAthiesm
atheism also buddhism is atheism and okay nothing really to argue here. i see what i'm going to lol at
QuoteNihilist
ok
QuoteEvolutionist
ok here it is:
lol
How is a scientific theory* a philosophy or religion? It says nothing about the creation of life, how one should live his life, what comes after life, etc.
One can be a Christian and accept evolution. One can be a Muslim and accept evolution. "" a jew "". blah.
*not the same as a regular theory. same word different meaning
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Anyway, I'm not too religious, but I'll always believe that there is a god.
so why christianity?
what makes multiple cases of divine intervention/genocide, a virgin birth, a God incarnate, rising from the dead, and so on more believable than, say Hinduism? What stops you from being a Muslim where the only difference in theology is the belief that Jesus did not die on the cross and that Mohammed was their profit? Or Judaism where they do not believe that their messiah has arrived? Islam and Christianity are both retarded as fuck, to me, but Islam is a bit less batshit insane. Rather than believe in God in the flesh, they believe that Jesus was just bestowed his powers by God and whatnot.
And why any religion at all? Why not Deism where God does not interfere? What makes Christianity the truth above all other beliefs?
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 02:46:58 PM
CHA CHINGGGGGGG
okay how is that any less believable than
aaron
noah
moses
david
abraham
john
jonah
elijah
daniel
enoch
nathan
solomon
ezekial
uhm there are more but i'm too lazy to remember them.
how is just one more prophet suddenly untrue?
Quote from: µΩ on April 27, 2009, 02:54:07 PM
okay how is that any less believable than
aaron
noah
moses
david
abraham
john
jonah
elijah
daniel
enoch
nathan
solomon
ezekial
uhm there are more but i'm too lazy to remember them.
how is just one more prophet suddenly untrue?
you completely missed what i was pointing out doodthing;
i mean it was pretty obvious by saying 'cha ching' i dont know what you think i meant when i said that
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:01:15 PM
you completely missed what i was pointing out doodthing;
i guess i did.
oh okay so you ignored an entire post for a single typo in serious discussion forgive me for thinking you were making an actual argument akudood;
Quote from: ,µÎ© on April 27, 2009, 03:02:30 PM
i guess i did.
oh okay so you ignored an entire post for a single typo in serious discussion forgive me for thinking you were making an actual argument akudood;
what did you think i meant
also i hardly ever make actual arguments :3
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:03:36 PM
what did you think i meant
also i hardly ever make actual arguments :3
that a difference of one prophet is what made towelism more believable than nun-ism.
Quote from: ,µÎ© on April 27, 2009, 03:04:49 PM
that a difference of one prophet is what made towelism more believable than nun-ism.
No, that Mohammed was the most profitable one of all.
Quote from: Slim on April 27, 2009, 03:09:00 PM
No, that Mohammed was the most profitable one of all.
i think jesus was.
zing
get it that was a joke about the christian churches being run as businesses
Quote from: ,µÎ© on April 27, 2009, 02:40:35 PM
wut.
Nothing != Neutral
Nothing = Lack of anything.
Neutral = Neither good or bad.
therefore:
Lack of anything != Neither good or bad
also
!= || ≠> =/=
wut.
Are you referring to this? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1157784/Do-mysterious-stones-mark-site-Garden-Eden.html) because The Daily Mail is full of bullshit(not just on this. It's borderline tabloid. )
As for archeological finds where someone claims to actually find a magical bible land, the archeologist is usually ridiculed and not taken seriously and for good reason.
I've been some beautiful, peaceful woods around here. It doesn't mean that I found the Garden of Eden.
Like what? People living in the Americas hundreds thousands of years before God supposedly made the world?
oh but it's not a literal creation story jmv except how the previous part how i used the garden of eden as my argument. akudood;
Other religions believe in a God too. What makes you so sure yours are just as accurate?
wut.
magneto
What the fuck is a telemantros
Like I said before, Craig uses silly arguments based on circular logic and no actual facts.
OH BOY
okatheism also buddhism is atheism and okay nothing really to argue here. i see what i'm going to lol at
ok
ok here it is:
lol
How is a scientific theory* a philosophy or religion? It says nothing about the creation of life, how one should live his life, what comes after life, etc.
One can be a Christian and accept evolution. One can be a Muslim and accept evolution. "" a jew "". blah.
*not the same as a regular theory. same word different meaningso why christianity?
what makes multiple cases of divine intervention/genocide, a virgin birth, a God incarnate, rising from the dead, and so on more believable than, say Hinduism? What stops you from being a Muslim where the only difference in theology is the belief that Jesus did not die on the cross and that Mohammed was their profit? Or Judaism where they do not believe that their messiah has arrived? Islam and Christianity are both retarded as fuck, to me, but Islam is a bit less batshit insane. Rather than believe in God in the flesh, they believe that Jesus was just bestowed his powers by God and whatnot.
And why any religion at all? Why not Deism where God does not interfere? What makes Christianity the truth above all other beliefs?
1. Lack of any action.
2. Not, it's not that. The video I was referring to was in my school during Global Studies.
I don't think that trying to go to a designated location based on a reliable source isn't the same as thinking that some other random places that you went to were beautiful, and then saying that it's not the Garden of Eden when you didn't even have that in mind.
3. They try to see if Jesus really existed. But then again, I just realized that even if he existed, he may have been claiming to be having these kinds of supernatrual powers that may not have existed.
4. Funny that you came up with this. I haven't studied well.
5. YouTuber. Also, why do you have to be aggressive while asking? About Dr. WLC, why is he looked at all the time? I suggest you watch some of his debates with some Athiests. Especially the one with Peter Atkins.
6. Evolutionism as a philosophy? Silly me, what a mistake. I didn't mean to, but oh well. Also, I forgot Deism.
7."what makes multiple cases of divine intervention/genocide, a virgin birth, a God incarnate, rising from the dead, and so on more believable than, say Hinduism? What stops you from being a Muslim where the only difference in theology is the belief that Jesus did not die on the cross and that Mohammed was their profit? Or Judaism where they do not believe that their messiah has arrived? Islam and Christianity are both retarded as fuck, to me, but Islam is a bit less batshit insane. Rather than believe in God in the flesh, they believe that Jesus was just bestowed his powers by God and whatnot.
And why any religion at all? Why not Deism where God does not interfere? What makes Christianity the truth above all other beliefs?"
Why be so offensive? Anyway, you may classify me more as a retard when I saw "Search Telemantros and WLC, try to have contact with Telemantros after watching his videos (Which you may call bullshit and not even attempt to watch.) or try and debate with some people in the WLC forums. I've thought of Deism, too. But, I'm doing some research than being lazy and saying religion is a lie and just calling Deism.
I'm still young, and I've got a lot of ways to go. Not my excuse, but it's honestly the truth. I'm still learning. You ask me as if I know everything, a sixteen year old teenager. I believe in one thing where I'm not too fond of it, although it is my belief, I don't know everything behind it and still am unstable, but am willing to learn even if it has a possibility where it becomes a false religion.
While it seems as if you know you've figured out everything, find a place where you can debate with some Theists and their beliefs than dwelling in Boyah, or even learn something, I guess. Debating with teenagers than some adults (I'd say 24-30) that may have much more knowledge than me.
Lol at unnecessary suggestions.
you guys do know its traditionally spelled Muhammad right
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:24:17 PM
you guys do know its spelled Muhammad right
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nuh uh there's more than one way to spell it.
Quote from: Slim on April 27, 2009, 03:25:56 PM
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nuh uh there's more than one way to spell it.
i might as well call you zlym then
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:28:10 PM
i might as well call you zlym then
yeah and i'll call you stupidface :\
ok?
Quote from: Slim on April 27, 2009, 03:29:02 PM
yeah and i'll call you stupidface :\
ok?
you're the one who can't spell goonish
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:30:38 PM
you're the one who can't spell goonish
from wikipedia:
"Muhammad ibn â,˜Abdull,,h (Arabic: Ù…Øمّد; Transliteration: Muḥammad;[2] IPA: [mÊŠ,,§É‘mmæd̪]; Ar-muhammad.ogg pronunciation (help,·info);
also spelled Mohammed or Muhammed)"
people's names have different spellings sometimes. :\
Quote from: Slim on April 27, 2009, 03:33:20 PM
from wikipedia:
"Muhammad ibn â,˜Abdull,,h (Arabic: Ù…Øمّد; Transliteration: Muḥammad;[2] IPA: [mÊŠ,,§É‘mmæd̪]; Ar-muhammad.ogg pronunciation (help,·info); also spelled Mohammed or Muhammed)"
people's names have different spellings sometimes. :\
rofl
i guess you missed the first part where it's actually Muhammad ;)
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:34:58 PM
rofl
i guess you missed the first part where it's actually Muhammad ;)
rofl
i guess you missed the second part where mohammed and muhammed are listed as alternate spellings, meaning that they're all equally correct ;)
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:24:17 PM
you guys do know its traditionally spelled Muhammad right
you do know it's a transliteration from a language with a completely different alphabet right akudood;
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:34:58 PM
rofl
i guess you missed the first part where it's actually Muhammad ;)
i thought lawlz was banned ;)
Quote from: Original_MIB on April 27, 2009, 03:22:48 PM
1. Lack of any action.
wut
Quote2. Not, it's not that. The video I was referring to was in my school during Global Studies.
I don't think that trying to go to a designated location based on a reliable source isn't the same as thinking that some other random places that you went to were beautiful, and then saying that it's not the Garden of Eden when you didn't even have that in mind.
what is the reliable source? the bible? lol
it's also not the same as setting out to find a biblical landmark and claiming something is it without any proof otherwise.
Quote3. They try to see if Jesus really existed. But then again, I just realized that even if he existed, he may have been claiming to be having these kinds of supernatrual powers that may not have existed.
there are also historians who research mohammed and buddha.
Quote4. Funny that you came up with this. I haven't studied well.
baddood;
Quote5. YouTuber. Also, why do you have to be aggressive while asking? About Dr. WLC, why is he looked at all the time? I suggest you watch some of his debates with some Athiests. Especially the one with Peter Atkins.
I fucking like to say fuck even when i'm not fucking angry. fuck
Ath
eists. None of us are any athier than anyone else. Also, I have which is why I mentioned his silly circular reasoning. He is looked at all the time by other Christians who want to re-affirm their beliefs based on circular reasoning.
Quote6. Evolutionism as a philosophy? Silly me, what a mistake. I didn't mean to, but oh well. Also, I forgot Deism.
yes. yes.
also you did baddood;
Quote7."what makes multiple cases of divine intervention/genocide, a virgin birth, a God incarnate, rising from the dead, and so on more believable than, say Hinduism? What stops you from being a Muslim where the only difference in theology is the belief that Jesus did not die on the cross and that Mohammed was their profit? Or Judaism where they do not believe that their messiah has arrived? Islam and Christianity are both retarded as fuck, to me, but Islam is a bit less batshit insane. Rather than believe in God in the flesh, they believe that Jesus was just bestowed his powers by God and whatnot.
And why any religion at all? Why not Deism where God does not interfere? What makes Christianity the truth above all other beliefs?"
Why be so offensive? Anyway, you may classify me more as a retard when I saw "Search Telemantros and WLC, try to have contact with Telemantros after watching his videos (Which you may call bullshit and not even attempt to watch.) or try and debate with some people in the WLC forums. I've thought of Deism, too. But, I'm doing some research than being lazy and saying religion is a lie and just calling Deism.
what was offensive. also calling a belief retarded != calling a person retarded
Telemagneto's videos seem to be full of pseudo-intellectual babbling, misconstrued quotes, "high school philosophical phase" philosophies, and the works. Nothing really amazing there.
I've watched several of WTC's videos and they're ridiculous and I don't know how anyone can take him seriously.
The type of people that would actually join a forum dedicated to sucking up to him will be nearly impossible to get through to thus wasting time, effort, and rage. They're so brainwashed by lack of logic that they'll just clench harder to their belief system.
ok
QuoteI'm still young, and I've got a lot of ways to go. Not my excuse, but it's honestly the truth. I'm still learning. You ask me as if I know everything, a sixteen year old teenager. I believe in one thing where I'm not too fond of it, although it is my belief, I don't know everything behind it and still am unstable, but am willing to learn even if it has a possibility where it becomes a false religion.
that first part is religion's fault. if you indoctrinate children early enough it becomes engrained in their brain and is much easier than spreading that logic to an adult.
well you still ignored the whole thing about jews and muslims having nearly the same beliefs yet you chose those ones.
Quote
While it seems as if you know you've figured out everything, find a place where you can debate with some Theists and their beliefs than dwelling in Boyah, or even learn something, I guess. Debating with teenagers than some adults (I'd say 24-30) that may have much more knowledge than me.
Lol at unnecessary suggestions.
i learned a lot baddood;
also i do lol they're silly and make the same arguments citing a self-citing book, using pascal's wager, plenty of other fallacies, and disproven arguments.
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what the fuck
Quote from: Slim on April 27, 2009, 03:38:42 PM
rofl
i guess you missed the second part where mohammed and muhammed are listed as alternate spellings, meaning that they're all equally correct ;)
okay if someone's name is actually hailie and you spell it hayley or halie, that doesn't make it correct, it makes you an idiot ;)
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:46:52 PM
okay if someone's name is actually hailie and you spell it hayley or halie, that doesn't make it correct, it makes you an idiot ;)
no it means you misspelled the name
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:46:52 PM
okay if someone's name is actually hailie and you spell it hayley or halie, that doesn't make it correct, it makes you an idiot ;)
da fuck is wrong wit chu
Quote from: Casey on April 27, 2009, 03:48:01 PM
no it means you misspelled the name
wow nothing gets past you
det did you know jesus' name is actually spelled yeshua or yashua
[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_and_titles_of_Jesus#Yeshua_.7C_Yahshua) ;)
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:46:52 PM
okay if someone's name is actually hailie and you spell it hayley or halie, that doesn't make it correct, it makes you an idiot ;)
ok stop being stupid
Ù…Øمّد, which i hope you can see, is his name.
it's not based on the phoenician alphabet. you're not gonna have an exact translation when letters have ambiguity since they're based on pronunciation.
it's not like they go د = m, etc. the pronunciation is the same thus both work.
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:46:52 PM
okay if someone's name is actually hailie and you spell it hayley or halie, that doesn't make it correct, it makes you an idiot ;)
except you know those are names originally spelled with the latin alphabet so you're kind of comparing apples to tire irons ;)
Quote from: Trav on April 27, 2009, 03:50:08 PM
da fuck is wrong wit chu
infectious lawlzitis akudood;
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 03:50:46 PM
wow nothing gets past you
lol nice edit there det ;)
I HOPE NO ONE FINDS OUT YOU HAD ORIGINALLY WRITTEN "PASSED"
i like how translating from the hebrew alphabet to the phoenician alphabet can apparently change the meaning of entire verses and create contradictions but it's okay since it's the perfect word of god except the errors which are translation errors yet changing a name from arabic to phoenician based and having ambiguity of its spelling is just something to point out.
for the record:
regardless of the translation, muhhamed/mohhamed/skunkrat did the same thing and wrote the Qur'an (oh no it is also spelled Kuran too ohno).
however the same can't be said for hebrew translations. last words change. people in a location change. amounts change. etc.
This got stupid very fast.
Quote from: ClassicTyler on April 27, 2009, 04:09:48 PM
This got stupid very fast.
det is the catalyst of stupidity on serious discussion
Quote from: Casey on April 27, 2009, 04:10:19 PM
det is the catalyst of stupidity on serious discussion
Most Boyagers are.
Quote from: ,µÎ© on April 27, 2009, 04:10:36 PM
so did humanity
It went from religion to how to spell [yet another] false god's name.
Quote from: guff on April 27, 2009, 03:53:25 PM
lol nice edit there det ;)
I HOPE NO ONE FINDS OUT YOU HAD ORIGINALLY WRITTEN "PASSED"
OH NO GUFF YOU CAUGHT ME, WHATEVER SHALL I DO
ps nice comeback for a 20+ year old man ;)
Quote from: ClassicTyler on April 27, 2009, 04:09:48 PM
This got stupid very fast.
i know i love how worked up adults get at the trolling of 16-year-old girl
mohammed is a prophet not a god
Quote from: µΩ on April 27, 2009, 04:13:05 PM
mohammed is a prophet not a god
no hes a profit
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 04:12:36 PM
i know i love how worked up adults get at the trolling of 16-year-old girl
Honey, I'm only 19. I'm a
young adult.
See? I can blow insignificant things out of proportion too. ;)
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 04:12:36 PM
i know i love how worked up adults get at the trolling of 16-year-old girl
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/7/73/Trollface.png)
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 04:12:36 PM
OH NO GUFF YOU CAUGHT ME, WHATEVER SHALL I DO
make a coherent argument for your case?
OH RIGHT I FORGOT YOU ARE DET akudood;
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 04:12:36 PM
ps nice comeback for a 20+ year old man ;)
uh okay but uh what doodhuh;
didn't guff just turn 18 or 19
i thought guff has been in community college for like 2-3 years
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 04:19:27 PM
i thought guff has been in community college for like 2-3 years
There is nothing wrong with that.
Quote from: ClassicTyler on April 27, 2009, 04:20:17 PM
There is nothing wrong with that.
im not saying there is
but i wouldn't assume he would be 18 under that impression
Quote from: ClassicTyler on April 27, 2009, 04:20:17 PM
There is nothing wrong with that.
she was talking about thinking he was over 20
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 04:12:36 PMi know i love how worked up adults get at the trolling of 16-year-old girl
worked up? more like all hot and bothered. <3
Quote from: ,µÎ© on April 27, 2009, 04:18:47 PM
didn't guff just turn 18 or 19
she's still multiple years younger
basically, she's PAK and we're all phydeauxs
Quote from: Slim on April 27, 2009, 04:21:53 PM
worked up? more like all hot and bothered. <3
she's still multiple years younger
basically, she's PAK and we're all phydeauxs
that is insulting
im not fat :(
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 04:20:47 PM
im not saying there is
but i wouldn't assume he would be 18 under that impression
Oops. I'm on the edge, sorry. giggle;
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 04:22:45 PM
that is insulting
sorry
Quote from: ,µÎ© on April 27, 2009, 04:22:56 PM
im not fat :(
Yeah, but you're an old, creepy weirdo lurking on the Internet.
You know what? Stop talking to me, you pedophile. Go find a girl your own age. Try the local retirement home first.
no you stop talking to you
Quote from: ,µÎ© on April 27, 2009, 04:25:57 PM
no you stop talking to you
wow
you're getting all worked up from the trolling of a 13-year-old boy. pretty sad, if you ask me.
Quote from: ClassicTyler on April 27, 2009, 04:20:17 PM
There is nothing wrong with that.
this made me laugh for some reason akudood;
but yeah i have no illusions about community college it's just that i had to go somewhere and it was covered under my scholarship thingy baddood;
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 27, 2009, 04:19:27 PM
i thought guff has been in community college for like 2-3 years
this is my second semester so uh close
but completely wrong akudood;
...wtf just happened? baddood;
Quote from: PuuMastaFunk on April 27, 2009, 08:03:28 PM
...wtf just happened? baddood;
What happened? Det happened.
Quote from: Slim on April 27, 2009, 08:06:29 PM
What happened? Det happened.
Ooh, it was that bad?
Quote from: PuuMastaFunk on April 27, 2009, 08:08:50 PM
Ooh, it was that bad?
well, the cleanup crew is still working on the ceilings but most of the blood is gone from the walls
yeah det is the biggest douche bag boyah has ever seen.
Quote from: guff on April 28, 2009, 12:13:59 AM
well, the cleanup crew is still working on the ceilings but most of the blood is gone from the walls
What about the grey matter all over the floor?
Quote from: laylay on April 28, 2009, 09:55:45 AM
yeah det is the biggest douche bag boyah has ever seen.
bahahahaha
because you've the most intelligent member here and have been here long enough to make that call
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 28, 2009, 02:14:46 PM
bahahahaha
because you've the most intelligent member here and have been here long enough to make that call
intelligence has nothing to do with it.
and i can make that call.
cause i don't think anyone EVER could be worse than you.
Quote from: laylay on April 28, 2009, 02:20:26 PM
intelligence has nothing to do with it.
and i can make that call.
cause i don't think anyone EVER could be worse than you.
yes it does.
no you don't.
and uh,
you.
Quote from: Det in Fâ,,¯ Major on April 28, 2009, 02:25:07 PM
yes it does.
no you don't.
and uh,
you.
nope.
people love me.
people hate you.
Quote from: laylay on April 28, 2009, 02:28:09 PM
nope.
people love me.
people hate you.
hahahahahahaha.
Not again...This is about as boring as my religious rants.
Lacey isn't stupid, she's just ignorant.
Quote from: Zach on April 29, 2009, 08:21:38 AM
Lacey isn't stupid, she's just ignorant.
there we go.
you got it.
Quote from: laylay on April 29, 2009, 11:02:05 AM
there we go.
you go it.
That's not
much of a complement.
Quote from: PuuMastaFunk on April 29, 2009, 04:55:16 PM
That's not much of a complement.
(http://www.coolmath.com/reference/images/dictionary-complement-of-an-angle.gif)
Quote from: laylay on April 28, 2009, 02:20:26 PM
intelligence has nothing to do with it.
I think that wraps this up pretty well.