1. Same price as the 30 gig iPod Video with the same amount of memory.
2. On top of that, it has a bigger screen.
3. Wireless song transfers. (useless but I don't see what there is to complain about it being there)
4. Longer battery life. (Will find source if I'm not believed, I've seen plenty)
5. No spin wheel, once you make the switch, you'll be confused as **** from the spin wheel.
6. FM Radio, which is like a 40 dollar attachment for the iPod.
7. Menus are much easier to use, switch sections without having to press like 3 buttons.
8. Pick your own background.
9. The Zune program looks and feels flat-out better then iTunes.
10. More information on your music.
11. Easier to use Quick List. (or On-The-Go list as called by the iPod)
12. The pictures MOVE in the slideshows! (haha)
13. It's not compatible with Macs, who the **** buys those anyways?
14. XBox 360 compatibility.
15. The Zune Marketplace will eventually be the one place where all the music is. If you don't know what Microsoft means, then I'll tell you. It means MONEY. Microsoft can (and will) buy out all the record companies (not buy them, but get their services) to only put their music on Zune Marketplace, and to take their music off of iTunes.
I'm done, feel free to argue with me. I will give iPod props on getting here first and revolutionizing MP3 players, and for having that nifty little music quiz.
Zune is way better.
Disadvantages of the Zune:
1: Made by Microsoft, so you know you're buying shit.
I could care less what brand it is as long as it plays music.
The Zune is very nice. My friend has one and it's gorgeous. Screen is huge and the overall layout looks great.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:22:05 PM
Disadvantages of the Zune:
1: Made by Microsoft, so you know you're buying shit.
Opinion, lol
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:22:05 PM
Disadvantages of the Zune:
1: Made by Microsoft, so you know you're buying shit.
No. There's really not much wrong with Microsoft, so making up bullshit like this just because you prefer Macintosh just looks stupid.
I prefer Macs, but I've gotta say, the Zune is superior to iPod, regaurdless of the brand, maker, or any other shit.
Also, the ability to buy out everything a smaller company has (AKA, stealing) is not an advantage. It's an attempt to monopolize the market.
I'm fine with companies like Creative competing with Apple. Hell, I'd be fine if they even toppled them; but when it's Microsoft, then they just need to gtfo. Money can't get you everything, but MS still can't believe it. They're busy converting "non-conformists" to their half-assed products.
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:22:05 PM
Disadvantages of the Zune:
1: Made by Microsoft, so you know you're buying shit.
Opinion, lol
Xbox
Xbox 360
Microsoft Windows
All are known for horrible product "quality."
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:22:05 PM
Disadvantages of the Zune:
1: Made by Microsoft, so you know you're buying shit.
Opinion, lol
Xbox
Xbox 360
Microsoft Windows
All are known for horrible product "quality."
I've been running the same computer for 4 years. It hasn't broken. :/
Quote from: iWolf on May 27, 2007, 07:28:03 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:22:05 PM
Disadvantages of the Zune:
1: Made by Microsoft, so you know you're buying shit.
Opinion, lol
Xbox
Xbox 360
Microsoft Windows
All are known for horrible product "quality."
I've been running the same computer for 4 years. It hasn't broken. :/
Microsoft doesn't make computers.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:26:53 PM
Also, the ability to buy out everything a smaller company has (AKA, stealing) is not an advantage.
Really? I wasn't aware that one company willingly selling its material to another for a large sum of money was another term for stealing.
Learn something new everyday, I guess.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:22:05 PM
Disadvantages of the Zune:
1: Made by Microsoft, so you know you're buying shit.
Opinion, lol
Xbox
Xbox 360
Microsoft Windows
All are known for horrible product "quality."
I never heard those products being known for horrible product quality. Are you pulling these things out of your totally opinionated ass?
And yes, being able to buy out stuff from smaller companies is an advantage. Just so you know, that doesn't make Microsoft cruel and heartless. Apple just wants your money as much as Microsoft does, and face it, Microsoft is better at it, and they'll spend money to make more. If Apple had as much money as Microsoft, there's no doubt in my mind that they would do the same.
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:22:05 PM
Disadvantages of the Zune:
1: Made by Microsoft, so you know you're buying shit.
Opinion, lol
Xbox
Xbox 360
Microsoft Windows
All are known for horrible product "quality."
I never heard those products being known for horrible product quality. Are you pulling these things out of your totally opinionated ass?
And yes, being able to buy out stuff from smaller companies is an advantage. Just so you know, that doesn't make Microsoft cruel and heartless. Apple just wants your money as much as Microsoft does, and face it, Microsoft is better at it, and they'll spend money to make more. If Apple had as much money as Microsoft, there's no doubt in my mind that they would do the same.
but apul isnt run bi bil gaits lol
Quote from: General Grievous on May 27, 2007, 07:29:35 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:26:53 PM
Also, the ability to buy out everything a smaller company has (AKA, stealing) is not an advantage.
Really? I wasn't aware that one company willingly selling its material to another for a large sum of money was another term for stealing.
Learn something new everyday, I guess.
The small companies are helpless. They don't have enough money, so they can't do shit. The large company loses only pocket change.
Example: There's a small coffee shop in a small town. They have fair prices, a fine selection, and the best damn coffee and snacks you can get anywhere. Pretty much everyone goes there on their way to work, except for a few that say "wtf no this stor sux cuz evry1 go thar."
Eventually, a Starbucks is constructed on the other side of the street. Billboards are slapped everywhere and everyone knows what Starbucks is. The "nonconformists" think "THIS IS BETTER CUZ IT'S NEW, I KNOW WHAT IT IS, AND I'LL BE THE FIRST THERE." Then, since everyone has heard of the company for years, they decide this is where they have to go. They're drawn in by these damn "tall" coffees, exoticly named products, and high advertisements.
The store across the street with a smaller menu but more delicious coffee burns down the next day.
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:22:05 PM
Disadvantages of the Zune:
1: Made by Microsoft, so you know you're buying shit.
Opinion, lol
Xbox
Xbox 360
Microsoft Windows
All are known for horrible product "quality."
I never heard those products being known for horrible product quality. Are you pulling these things out of your totally opinionated ass?
And yes, being able to buy out stuff from smaller companies is an advantage. Just so you know, that doesn't make Microsoft cruel and heartless. Apple just wants your money as much as Microsoft does, and face it, Microsoft is better at it, and they'll spend money to make more. If Apple had as much money as Microsoft, there's no doubt in my mind that they would do the same.
Xbox house fires and faulty AC adapters.
Ring of death.
Microsoft Windows.
The Zen is superior in every way. If you truly wanted features and low price, you'd get a Zen, wouldn't you? Of course not, you had to go by brand name. People run Windows, so they assume the Zune must be the best thing for their OS. Most people that run Macs assume the iPod must be the best. The Zen
is the best, but who's heard of Creative? No one, so in the average consumer's mind, it's shit.
"Better then"?
It is a nice product but it's not better than the iPod, the only thing I like about it is the screen's size. voomts;
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:40:24 PM
The Zen is superior in every way. If you truly wanted features and low pries, you'd get a Zen, wouldn't you? Of coutrse not, you had to go by brand name. People run Windows, so they assume the Zune must be the best thing for their OS. Most people that run Macs assume the iPod must be the best. The Zen is the best, but who's heard of Creative? No one, so in the average consumer's mind, it's shit.
I completely agree.
china;
Quote from: Bassir on May 27, 2007, 07:42:05 PM
"Better then"?
lol woops
Lock'd because we now know the average consumers and those that try to be "unique" are dipshits.
I HABEEB I SAID "LOCK'D"
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 07:49:16 PM
Lock'd because we now know the average consumers and those that try to be "unique" are dipshits.
I believe you locked it for a retarded reason. awesome;
I agree with Lawlz. Microsoft products have a knack for breaking very quickly. I had a friend who bought a 360, it red ringed within a week.
Quote from: iWolf on May 27, 2007, 08:00:32 PM
I agree with Lawlz. Microsoft products have a knack for breaking very quickly. I had a friend who bought a 360, it red ringed within a week.
These testimonials are retarded, I could say that my iPod Mini broke 2 weeks after I got it (which it did, so I got a new one), and that my launch 360 has had one disc read error since I got it (which is also true) but of course, nobody would give two shits.
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 08:02:14 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 27, 2007, 08:00:32 PM
I agree with Lawlz. Microsoft products have a knack for breaking very quickly. I had a friend who bought a 360, it red ringed within a week.
These testimonials are retarded, I could say that my iPod Mini broke 2 weeks after I got it (which it did, so I got a new one), and that my launch 360 has had one disc read error since I got it (which is also true) but of course, nobody would give two shits.
Who the fuck cares what kind of MP3 player they use? As long as it plays music, whats the difference.
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 08:02:14 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 27, 2007, 08:00:32 PM
I agree with Lawlz. Microsoft products have a knack for breaking very quickly. I had a friend who bought a 360, it red ringed within a week.
These testimonials are retarded, I could say that my iPod Mini broke 2 weeks after I got it (which it did, so I got a new one), and that my launch 360 has had one disc read error since I got it (which is also true) but of course, nobody would give two shits.
Every product can break; Microsoft just has a higher ratio of broken products compared to companies like Apple.
Quote from: iWolf on May 27, 2007, 08:03:29 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 08:02:14 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 27, 2007, 08:00:32 PM
I agree with Lawlz. Microsoft products have a knack for breaking very quickly. I had a friend who bought a 360, it red ringed within a week.
These testimonials are retarded, I could say that my iPod Mini broke 2 weeks after I got it (which it did, so I got a new one), and that my launch 360 has had one disc read error since I got it (which is also true) but of course, nobody would give two shits.
Who the fuck cares what kind of MP3 player they use? As long as it plays music, whats the difference.
I clearly would want the inferior MP3 player that costs the same...
psyduck;
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 08:05:18 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 27, 2007, 08:03:29 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 08:02:14 PM
Quote from: iWolf on May 27, 2007, 08:00:32 PM
I agree with Lawlz. Microsoft products have a knack for breaking very quickly. I had a friend who bought a 360, it red ringed within a week.
These testimonials are retarded, I could say that my iPod Mini broke 2 weeks after I got it (which it did, so I got a new one), and that my launch 360 has had one disc read error since I got it (which is also true) but of course, nobody would give two shits.
Who the fuck cares what kind of MP3 player they use? As long as it plays music, whats the difference.
I clearly would want the inferior MP3 player that costs the same...
psyduck;
The PS3 was available for just $20 more than the Elite, but you didn't buy one? It supports Wifi, 3rd party hardware (have fun with your expensive proprietary HD's), BD-ROM, and loads of other shit your inferior 360 doesn't.
You better sell your 360 and get a PS3, because you're using an inferior game console.
RELOCKED.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 08:08:29 PM
The PS3 was available for just $20 more than the Elite, but you didn't buy one? It supports Wifi, 3rd party hardware (have fun with your expensive proprietary HD's), BD-ROM, and loads of other shit your inferior 360 doesn't.
You better sell your 360 and get a PS3, because you're using an inferior game console.
I didn't buy a 360 Elite. china;
I must commend you though, these are some mighty fine arguments you're putting up.
Does not change the fact that we're debating iPod vs. Zune. The difference between between Zune/iPod to 360/PS3 is that you can play every song on both the iPod/Zune (unless they were bought off of Zune Marketplace/iTunes, which I would seriously lol if people did that here) and that 360/PS3 actually have different software. I would take the 360 Elite over the PS3 because of the superior library of games, while you can't say the iPod or Zune have a superior library of anything over each other, because they play the same types of media.
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 08:17:47 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 08:08:29 PM
The PS3 was available for just $20 more than the Elite, but you didn't buy one? It supports Wifi, 3rd party hardware (have fun with your expensive proprietary HD's), BD-ROM, and loads of other shit your inferior 360 doesn't.
You better sell your 360 and get a PS3, because you're using an inferior game console.
I didn't buy a 360 Elite. china;
I must commend you though, these are some mighty fine arguments you're putting up.
Does not change the fact that we're debating iPod vs. Zune. The difference between between Zune/iPod to 360/PS3 is that you can play every song on both the iPod/Zune (unless they were bought off of Zune Marketplace/iTunes, which I would seriously lol if people did that here) and that 360/PS3 actually have different software. I would take the 360 Elite over the PS3 because of the superior library of games, while you can't say the iPod or Zune have a superior library of anything over each other, because they play the same types of media.
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 07:16:58 PM
15. The Zune Marketplace will eventually be the one place where all the music is. If you don't know what Microsoft means, then I'll tell you. It means MONEY. Microsoft can (and will) buy out all the record companies (not buy them, but get their services) to only put their music on Zune Marketplace, and to take their music off of iTunes.
Looks like your only advantage is the larger screen.
Also, iPod Linux. Doom.
I wasn't saying you had an Elite, I was merely stating they do have similar price ranges. One has more features than the other, and is just barely above it in terms of price. The iPod has less features than the Zune. iTunes has more music than the Zune Marketplace. The 360 has more games than the PS3. According to this logic, you hate the 360 and love the PS3.
Not that I deal with DRM'd music anyways, but name a song and I'll see if I can find it on the Zune Marketplace. I'll bet you 99 times out of 100, I'll be able to find it. And if I can't, I'm guessing it's not on iTunes either. What you just said could easily turn with Microsoft planning to offer huge chunks of cash to record companies to get their music on their marketplace exclusively, so basically that logic is flawed.
Might I add that I don't deal with DRM'd music?
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 08:29:21 PM
Not that I deal with DRM'd music anyways, but name a song and I'll see if I can find it on the Zune Marketplace. I'll bet you 99 times out of 100, I'll be able to find it. And if I can't, I'm guessing it's not on iTunes either. What you just said could easily turn with Microsoft planning to offer huge chunks of cash to record companies to get their music on their marketplace exclusively, so basically that logic is flawed.
Might I add that I don't deal with DRM'd music?
PROPTIP: I don't listen to music. Though you even admitted that iTunes has more music.
Sony had loads of support last gen, and Microsoft did miserably (no better than Nintendo, and no one can really say they did). How do we know they won't pull through this time? They still have Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid, whereas MS just has shooters and racers.
In summation, the 360, Wii, PS3, and Zune all suck.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 08:46:41 PM
PROPTIP: I don't listen to music. Though you even admitted that iTunes has more music.
Sony had loads of support last gen, and Microsoft did miserably (no better than Nintendo, and no one can really say they did). How do we know they won't pull through this time? They still have Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid, whereas MS just has shooters and racers.
In summation, the 360, Wii, PS3, and Zune all suck.
Say that again, and read it over before you hit post, because I didn't understand that middle paragraph at all. And when did I admit that iTunes has more music? Then at the end, you say the Zune sucks, yet I don't see you saying why the Zune is worse, other then it's the non-comformist selection for those of us who want to be different. I might have missed something, so fill me in.
Since when were iPod not compatible with the 360?
Zunes suck. psyduck; Why the hell would someone buy one.
Buy a Creative MP3 player.
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 08:54:27 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 08:46:41 PM
PROPTIP: I don't listen to music. Though you even admitted that iTunes has more music.
Sony had loads of support last gen, and Microsoft did miserably (no better than Nintendo, and no one can really say they did). How do we know they won't pull through this time? They still have Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid, whereas MS just has shooters and racers.
In summation, the 360, Wii, PS3, and Zune all suck.
Say that again, and read it over before you hit post, because I didn't understand that middle paragraph at all. And when did I admit that iTunes has more music? Then at the end, you say the Zune sucks, yet I don't see you saying why the Zune is worse, other then it's the non-comformist selection for those of us who want to be different. I might have missed something, so fill me in.
Sony did well last gen.
They're not seeing a lot of support now.
They can make a come back.
If you say otherwise, then that means the Zune is also a failure.
Quote from: Kefka on May 27, 2007, 08:56:38 PM
Zunes suck. psyduck; Why the hell would someone buy one.
By a Creative MP3 player.
That's the wisest thing you have ever said.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 08:46:41 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 08:29:21 PM
Not that I deal with DRM'd music anyways, but name a song and I'll see if I can find it on the Zune Marketplace. I'll bet you 99 times out of 100, I'll be able to find it. And if I can't, I'm guessing it's not on iTunes either. What you just said could easily turn with Microsoft planning to offer huge chunks of cash to record companies to get their music on their marketplace exclusively, so basically that logic is flawed.
Might I add that I don't deal with DRM'd music?
PROPTIP: I don't listen to music. Though you even admitted that iTunes has more music.
Sony had loads of support last gen, and Microsoft did miserably (no better than Nintendo, and no one can really say they did). How do we know they won't pull through this time? They still have Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid, whereas MS just has shooters and racers.
In summation, the 360, Wii, PS3, and Zune all suck.
Call me when the new Final Fantasy is fun for more then 10 hours and Hideo Kojima decides Big Boss is way fuckin' cooler then a 60 year old Solid Snake.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 08:57:40 PM
Sony did well last gen.
They're not seeing a lot of support now.
They can make a come back.
If you say otherwise, then that means the Zune is also a failure.
It's a case by case situation, judging by why I had a Mac back in 99, I was against the XBox in early 06, and I owned an iPod Video until last Christmas.
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 09:02:46 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 08:57:40 PM
Sony did well last gen.
They're not seeing a lot of support now.
They can make a come back.
If you say otherwise, then that means the Zune is also a failure.
It's a case by case situation, judging by why I had a Mac back in 99, I was against the XBox in early 06, and I owned an iPod Video until last Christmas.
I used to hate Apple and I hated Sony.
I now own a PS2, "acquired" a PSP, and took a risk by purchasing a Mac.
I hate Microsoft. I still hate Sony.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 09:06:18 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 09:02:46 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 08:57:40 PM
Sony did well last gen.
They're not seeing a lot of support now.
They can make a come back.
If you say otherwise, then that means the Zune is also a failure.
It's a case by case situation, judging by why I had a Mac back in 99, I was against the XBox in early 06, and I owned an iPod Video until last Christmas.
I used to hate Apple and I hated Sony.
I now own a PS2, "acquired" a PSP, and took a risk by purchasing a Mac.
I hate Microsoft. I still hate Sony.
I didn't ask for ur life story :|
One more thing.
The PSP has a bigger screen and can serf the web, does that make it better than the DS?
No it does not.
Quote from: Kefka on May 27, 2007, 09:16:06 PM
One more thing.
The PSP has a bigger screen and can serf the web, does that make it better than the DS?
No it does not.
dun 4get muvies n music nub :|:|:|:|
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 09:17:09 PM
Quote from: Kefka on May 27, 2007, 09:16:06 PM
One more thing.
The PSP has a bigger screen and can serf the web, does that make it better than the DS?
No it does not.
dun 4get muvies n music nub :|:|:|:|
o srry.
Quote from: Kefka on May 27, 2007, 09:16:06 PM
One more thing.
The PSP has a bigger screen and can serf the web, does that make it better than the DS?
No it does not.
It was for a few months. flower;
Quote from: Milad on May 27, 2007, 07:16:58 PM
1. Same price as the 30 gig iPod Video with the same amount of memory.
I've seen iPods on sale, and being the same price doesn't make the Zune better
2. On top of that, it has a bigger screen.
But the whole thing is also bigger and bulkier
3. Wireless song transfers. (useless but I don't see what there is to complain about it being there)
Have you actually used this feature? It sucks, you can only have a song for like a day or a week, and it will only allow you to transfer a few songs at a time. Good idea, but horribly done.
4. Longer battery life. (Will find source if I'm not believed, I've seen plenty)
Lol, it better have a better battery life with how big it is compared to an iPod. Also you have to compare same gb size, and the newest version of the iPod, they're always updating them.
5. No spin wheel, once you make the switch, you'll be confused as **** from the spin wheel.
Use an iPod for about an hour and you'll love it. Less clicking and faster at finding a song
6. FM Radio, which is like a 40 dollar attachment for the iPod.
I doubt many people use this, and I'm sure you can find the iPod attachment for cheaper then that. Not a big deal, I'd rather not have one.
7. Menus are much easier to use, switch sections without having to press like 3 buttons.
Opinions here, I disagree totally.
8. Pick your own background.
Lol, you got me here, but not a big loss to me.
9. The Zune program looks and feels flat-out better then iTunes.
Opinions here, I disagree. I've tried both but they're both pretty lame, iTunes has podcasts though.
10. More information on your music.
You should know about the music before you put it on your MP3 player
11. Easier to use Quick List. (or On-The-Go list as called by the iPod)
On-The-Go is just as easy buddy
12. The pictures MOVE in the slideshows! (haha)
Why do people need pictures on an MP3 player in the first place?
13. It's not compatible with Macs, who the **** buys those anyways?
No one because iPods are superior
14. XBox 360 compatibility.
...I hooked my 360 to my computer so I can play music from my computer on my 360, all 100gbs of music too.
15. The Zune Marketplace will eventually be the one place where all the music is. If you don't know what Microsoft means, then I'll tell you. It means MONEY. Microsoft can (and will) buy out all the record companies (not buy them, but get their services) to only put their music on Zune Marketplace, and to take their music off of iTunes.
Who buys music?
I'm done, feel free to argue with me. I will give iPod props on getting here first and revolutionizing MP3 players, and for having that nifty little music quiz.
I prefer iPod.
Also, Apple offers Kickass discounts. I can get an iPod for $200, and on the day after Thanksgiving, I can get them for under $200.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 09:23:53 PM
Also, Apple offers Kickass discounts. I can get an iPod for $200, and on the day after Thanksgiving, I can get them for under $200.
Where at? shlick;
Quote from: Reaper on May 27, 2007, 09:24:38 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 09:23:53 PM
Also, Apple offers Kickass discounts. I can get an iPod for $200, and on the day after Thanksgiving, I can get them for under $200.
Where at? shlick;
MIlitary discounts.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 09:25:59 PM
Quote from: Reaper on May 27, 2007, 09:24:38 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 27, 2007, 09:23:53 PM
Also, Apple offers Kickass discounts. I can get an iPod for $200, and on the day after Thanksgiving, I can get them for under $200.
Where at? shlick;
MIlitary discounts.
U R IN DA MILITARY OLOL
I don't care bout any of that shit. If I can play music on it, it's good. I can't play music on a Zune since I own a Mac and my Dell laptop is shitty as hell, so I won't buy it.
Quote from: Houdini on May 27, 2007, 09:59:01 PM
I don't care bout any of that shit. If I can play music on it, it's good. I can't play music on a Zune since I own a Mac and my Dell laptop is shitty as hell, so I won't buy it.
Dude, Zune != iPod. iPods suck too. Just get an RCA Lyra.
Quote from: SBKT on May 27, 2007, 10:25:15 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 27, 2007, 09:59:01 PM
I don't care bout any of that shit. If I can play music on it, it's good. I can't play music on a Zune since I own a Mac and my Dell laptop is shitty as hell, so I won't buy it.
Dude, Zune != iPod. iPods suck too. Just get an RCA Lyra.
Why does the iPod suck? Mine works fine.
Quote from: Houdini on May 27, 2007, 10:26:40 PM
Quote from: SBKT on May 27, 2007, 10:25:15 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 27, 2007, 09:59:01 PM
I don't care bout any of that shit. If I can play music on it, it's good. I can't play music on a Zune since I own a Mac and my Dell laptop is shitty as hell, so I won't buy it.
Dude, Zune != iPod. iPods suck too. Just get an RCA Lyra.
Why does the iPod suck? Mine works fine.
The software for it. Most software sort of sucks for it, and it's best to just get a Drag-and-drop loading one, as not to risk deleting your entire library.
Quote from: SBKT on May 27, 2007, 10:27:41 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 27, 2007, 10:26:40 PM
Quote from: SBKT on May 27, 2007, 10:25:15 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 27, 2007, 09:59:01 PM
I don't care bout any of that shit. If I can play music on it, it's good. I can't play music on a Zune since I own a Mac and my Dell laptop is shitty as hell, so I won't buy it.
Dude, Zune != iPod. iPods suck too. Just get an RCA Lyra.
Why does the iPod suck? Mine works fine.
The software for it. Most software sort of sucks for it, and it's best to just get a Drag-and-drop loading one, as not to risk deleting your entire library.
Huh. The one I have is two years old, so I guess that most be a relatively new thing.
Well, unquoting there, it's pretty old, too. It's just random, though.
Also, Compaq sucks more than Dell.
Quote from: SBKT on May 27, 2007, 10:30:29 PM
Well, unquoting there, it's pretty old, too. It's just random, though.
Also, Compaq sucks more than Dell.
Compaq sucks more than almost everything.
Quote from: Houdini on May 27, 2007, 10:34:34 PM
Quote from: SBKT on May 27, 2007, 10:30:29 PM
Well, unquoting there, it's pretty old, too. It's just random, though.
Also, Compaq sucks more than Dell.
Compaq sucks more than almost everything.
Yeah, and it's odd because Compaq is owned by HP, which makes fairly good computers.
Quote from: SBKT on May 27, 2007, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: Houdini on May 27, 2007, 10:34:34 PM
Quote from: SBKT on May 27, 2007, 10:30:29 PM
Well, unquoting there, it's pretty old, too. It's just random, though.
Also, Compaq sucks more than Dell.
Compaq sucks more than almost everything.
Yeah, and it's odd because Compaq is owned by HP, which makes fairly good computers.
Compaq is owned by HP? Yeah, that is pretty weird. Most of HP's stuff is decent.
DELL IS FUCKIN' AWESOME NOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY SHIP UBUNTU PC's.
I want a zune I think I may buy one I had an Ipod Shuffle and it actually had good sound quality but thats about it.
Quote from: acisthebest on May 28, 2007, 08:09:01 AM
I want a zune I think I may buy one I had an Ipod Shuffle and it actually had good sound quality but thats about it.
The best Sounds Quality I can find is Thompson quality.
Quote from: Kefka on May 27, 2007, 09:16:06 PM
One more thing.
The PSP has a bigger screen and can serf the web, does that make it better than the DS?
No it does not.
The DS has a better software library.
The iPod does not have a better software library then the Zune.
The DS > PSP in software
The PSP > DS in screen size
the Zune > iPod in screen size
the Zune = iPod in software
The iPod wins in nothing compared to your statement, and either way, you can't compare a game system to an MP3 player, they're two completely different things. I hate when people bring stuff like that up, because I made this thread to show how the Zune is better then the iPod, not Zens, DSs, PS3s, etc.
Quote from: acisthebest on May 28, 2007, 08:09:01 AM
I want a zune I think I may buy one I had an Ipod Shuffle and it actually had good sound quality but thats about it.
If you have any questions ask me.
Quote from: acisthebest on May 28, 2007, 08:09:01 AM
I want a zune I think I may buy one I had an Ipod Shuffle and it actually had good sound quality but thats about it.
No, Zune's are only for dumbasses like the OP. Go for a Zen. You'll save money and get a better quality product.
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 09:31:54 AM
Quote from: Kefka on May 27, 2007, 09:16:06 PM
One more thing.
The PSP has a bigger screen and can serf the web, does that make it better than the DS?
No it does not.
The DS has a better software library.
The iPod does not have a better software library then the Zune.
The DS > PSP in software
The PSP > DS in screen size
the Zune > iPod in screen size
the Zune = iPod in software
The iPod wins in nothing compared to your statement, and either way, you can't compare a game system to an MP3 player, they're two completely different things. I hate when people bring stuff like that up, because I made this thread to show how the Zune is better then the iPod, not Zens, DSs, PS3s, etc.
Quote from: acisthebest on May 28, 2007, 08:09:01 AM
I want a zune I think I may buy one I had an Ipod Shuffle and it actually had good sound quality but thats about it.
If you have any questions ask me.
The iPod has Linux and loads of third party accessories. Zune has neither. iPod also has games.
They're both overpriced and overhyped. Yay.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 12:58:47 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 09:31:54 AM
Quote from: Kefka on May 27, 2007, 09:16:06 PM
One more thing.
The PSP has a bigger screen and can serf the web, does that make it better than the DS?
No it does not.
The DS has a better software library.
The iPod does not have a better software library then the Zune.
The DS > PSP in software
The PSP > DS in screen size
the Zune > iPod in screen size
the Zune = iPod in software
The iPod wins in nothing compared to your statement, and either way, you can't compare a game system to an MP3 player, they're two completely different things. I hate when people bring stuff like that up, because I made this thread to show how the Zune is better then the iPod, not Zens, DSs, PS3s, etc.
Quote from: acisthebest on May 28, 2007, 08:09:01 AM
I want a zune I think I may buy one I had an Ipod Shuffle and it actually had good sound quality but thats about it.
If you have any questions ask me.
The iPod has Linux and loads of third party accessories. Zune has neither. iPod also has games.
Screen size of Zune > Screen size of iPod
Size of Zune > Size of iPod
Your choice.
The only thing I dislike about the iPods is that they cost too much and they don't last very long.
Just so you guys know, I'm basing the second thing on my personal experiences.
Quote from: Thief888 on May 28, 2007, 01:02:28 PM
The only thing I dislike about the iPods is that they cost too much and they don't last very long.
Just so you guys know, I'm basing the second thing on my personal experiences.
Don't last long? Mines three years old, works fine but the battery life sucks. But then again, it's three years old.
They're the same price as a Zune, and usually you can find some kind of discount on either.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 12:58:47 PM
The iPod has Linux and loads of third party accessories. Zune has neither. iPod also has games.
Zune has Windows and I have accessories too. I have a transdock for the Zune, and I have a Radio Tuner from BIO labs or some company like that. Then I have my microsoft dock/zune remote, and then there's headphones which work with every MP3 player that uses the standard input. iPod does have more, but Zune still has a lot.
And LOL @ using iPods for Games. The only worthwhile game on the iPod is Music Quiz, and I can just play that by closing my eyes.
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 12:58:47 PM
The iPod has Linux and loads of third party accessories. Zune has neither. iPod also has games.
Zune has Windows and I have accessories too. I have a transdock for the Zune, and I have a Radio Tuner from BIO labs or some company like that. Then I have my microsoft dock/zune remote, and then there's headphones which work with every MP3 player that uses the standard input. iPod does have more, but Zune still has a lot.
And LOL @ using iPods for Games. The only worthwhile game on the iPod is Music Quiz, and I can just play that by closing my eyes.
iPod has Doom.
And you listed stuff that no one will even have a use for like the transferring of songs over wifi.
Tell me, how many times have you used that?
Quote from: Reaper on May 28, 2007, 01:30:09 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 12:58:47 PM
The iPod has Linux and loads of third party accessories. Zune has neither. iPod also has games.
Zune has Windows and I have accessories too. I have a transdock for the Zune, and I have a Radio Tuner from BIO labs or some company like that. Then I have my microsoft dock/zune remote, and then there's headphones which work with every MP3 player that uses the standard input. iPod does have more, but Zune still has a lot.
And LOL @ using iPods for Games. The only worthwhile game on the iPod is Music Quiz, and I can just play that by closing my eyes.
iPod has Doom.
And you listed stuff that no one will even have a use for like the transferring of songs over wifi.
Tell me, how many times have you used that?
Three times. china;
I use the photo feature, and I watch tons of movies on my Zune. Honestly, that was the one thing that I don't really use.
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 01:31:34 PM
Three times. china;
I use the photo feature, and I watch tons of movies on my Zune. Honestly, that was the one thing that I don't really use.
Only reason I would consider getting a Zune is because of the bigger screen, but the touch wheel is what makes me keep my iPod. And of course the cost of buying a new mp3 player.
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 12:58:47 PM
The iPod has Linux and loads of third party accessories. Zune has neither. iPod also has games.
Zune has Windows and I have accessories too. I have a transdock for the Zune, and I have a Radio Tuner from BIO labs or some company like that. Then I have my microsoft dock/zune remote, and then there's headphones which work with every MP3 player that uses the standard input. iPod does have more, but Zune still has a lot.
And LOL @ using iPods for Games. The only worthwhile game on the iPod is Music Quiz, and I can just play that by closing my eyes.
The iPod can run Linux, dumbass. The Zune isn't running Windows.
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 02:17:29 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 12:58:47 PM
The iPod has Linux and loads of third party accessories. Zune has neither. iPod also has games.
Zune has Windows and I have accessories too. I have a transdock for the Zune, and I have a Radio Tuner from BIO labs or some company like that. Then I have my microsoft dock/zune remote, and then there's headphones which work with every MP3 player that uses the standard input. iPod does have more, but Zune still has a lot.
And LOL @ using iPods for Games. The only worthwhile game on the iPod is Music Quiz, and I can just play that by closing my eyes.
The iPod can run Linux, dumbass. The Zune isn't running Windows.
Oh, I thought you meant that it was running on Linux. Not that it could run Linux.
Why the fuck would you want Linux on a screen that small?
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 02:21:06 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 02:17:29 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 12:58:47 PM
The iPod has Linux and loads of third party accessories. Zune has neither. iPod also has games.
Zune has Windows and I have accessories too. I have a transdock for the Zune, and I have a Radio Tuner from BIO labs or some company like that. Then I have my microsoft dock/zune remote, and then there's headphones which work with every MP3 player that uses the standard input. iPod does have more, but Zune still has a lot.
And LOL @ using iPods for Games. The only worthwhile game on the iPod is Music Quiz, and I can just play that by closing my eyes.
The iPod can run Linux, dumbass. The Zune isn't running Windows.
Oh, I thought you meant that it was running on Linux. Not that it could run Linux.
Why the fuck would you want Linux on a screen that small?
To be an elitist bastard and have something to brag about to your script-kiddie friends, duh. That's all they care about. They'd put linux into their DOG if they could.
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 02:21:06 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 02:17:29 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 12:58:47 PM
The iPod has Linux and loads of third party accessories. Zune has neither. iPod also has games.
Zune has Windows and I have accessories too. I have a transdock for the Zune, and I have a Radio Tuner from BIO labs or some company like that. Then I have my microsoft dock/zune remote, and then there's headphones which work with every MP3 player that uses the standard input. iPod does have more, but Zune still has a lot.
And LOL @ using iPods for Games. The only worthwhile game on the iPod is Music Quiz, and I can just play that by closing my eyes.
The iPod can run Linux, dumbass. The Zune isn't running Windows.
Oh, I thought you meant that it was running on Linux. Not that it could run Linux.
Why the fuck would you want Linux on a screen that small?
PROTIP: It's not screen size that matters, it's resolution.
Computers with 320x240 monitors were once considered high definition and top of the line. They got along just fine. Hell, DS screens don't even feature a resolution that good.
Better question: Why would anyone run Windows, regardless of resolution?
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 03:04:41 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 02:21:06 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 02:17:29 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 12:58:47 PM
The iPod has Linux and loads of third party accessories. Zune has neither. iPod also has games.
Zune has Windows and I have accessories too. I have a transdock for the Zune, and I have a Radio Tuner from BIO labs or some company like that. Then I have my microsoft dock/zune remote, and then there's headphones which work with every MP3 player that uses the standard input. iPod does have more, but Zune still has a lot.
And LOL @ using iPods for Games. The only worthwhile game on the iPod is Music Quiz, and I can just play that by closing my eyes.
The iPod can run Linux, dumbass. The Zune isn't running Windows.
Oh, I thought you meant that it was running on Linux. Not that it could run Linux.
Why the fuck would you want Linux on a screen that small?
PROTIP: It's not screen size that matters, it's resolution.
Computers with 320x240 monitors were once considered high definition and top of the line. They got along just fine. Hell, DS screens don't even feature a resolution that good.
Better question: Why would anyone run Windows, regardless of resolution?
Because I hate the Mac interface. Simple as that. Also, I've been conditioned to use Windows and shit.
Quote from: SBKT on May 28, 2007, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 03:04:41 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 02:21:06 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 02:17:29 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 12:58:47 PM
The iPod has Linux and loads of third party accessories. Zune has neither. iPod also has games.
Zune has Windows and I have accessories too. I have a transdock for the Zune, and I have a Radio Tuner from BIO labs or some company like that. Then I have my microsoft dock/zune remote, and then there's headphones which work with every MP3 player that uses the standard input. iPod does have more, but Zune still has a lot.
And LOL @ using iPods for Games. The only worthwhile game on the iPod is Music Quiz, and I can just play that by closing my eyes.
The iPod can run Linux, dumbass. The Zune isn't running Windows.
Oh, I thought you meant that it was running on Linux. Not that it could run Linux.
Why the fuck would you want Linux on a screen that small?
PROTIP: It's not screen size that matters, it's resolution.
Computers with 320x240 monitors were once considered high definition and top of the line. They got along just fine. Hell, DS screens don't even feature a resolution that good.
Better question: Why would anyone run Windows, regardless of resolution?
Because I hate the Mac interface. Simple as that. Also, I've been conditioned to use Windows and shit.
Ubuntu.
Fedora Core.
Debian.
BSD.
Unix.
Darwin.
luk at dos freeee altirntivs
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 03:09:51 PM
Ubuntu.
Fedora Core.
Debian.
BSD.
Unix.
Darwin.
luk at dos freeee altirntivs
...
He just said he's used to the Windows interface.
psyduck;
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 03:09:51 PM
Quote from: SBKT on May 28, 2007, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 03:04:41 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 02:21:06 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 02:17:29 PM
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 12:58:47 PM
The iPod has Linux and loads of third party accessories. Zune has neither. iPod also has games.
Zune has Windows and I have accessories too. I have a transdock for the Zune, and I have a Radio Tuner from BIO labs or some company like that. Then I have my microsoft dock/zune remote, and then there's headphones which work with every MP3 player that uses the standard input. iPod does have more, but Zune still has a lot.
And LOL @ using iPods for Games. The only worthwhile game on the iPod is Music Quiz, and I can just play that by closing my eyes.
The iPod can run Linux, dumbass. The Zune isn't running Windows.
Oh, I thought you meant that it was running on Linux. Not that it could run Linux.
Why the fuck would you want Linux on a screen that small?
PROTIP: It's not screen size that matters, it's resolution.
Computers with 320x240 monitors were once considered high definition and top of the line. They got along just fine. Hell, DS screens don't even feature a resolution that good.
Better question: Why would anyone run Windows, regardless of resolution?
Because I hate the Mac interface. Simple as that. Also, I've been conditioned to use Windows and shit.
Ubuntu.
Fedora Core.
Debian.
BSD.
Unix.
Darwin.
luk at dos freeee altirntivs
I've seen Debian Knoppix, it was good, but blankish, and ran real slow.
Interface sucks, still. I'm used to my Windows, damnit.
Quote from: Milad on May 28, 2007, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on May 28, 2007, 03:09:51 PM
Ubuntu.
Fedora Core.
Debian.
BSD.
Unix.
Darwin.
luk at dos freeee altirntivs
...
He just said he's used to the Windows interface.
psyduck;
It's possible to set up your windowing system and everything to be just like Windows. GNOME is fully customizable.