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Title: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Daddy on December 05, 2008, 09:28:11 AM
Which of these four shall I study first? giggle;
I'm also waiting for my PHP book to arrive.
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Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: :atomsk: on December 05, 2008, 09:35:52 AM
i don't know.  saddood;
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Cookie on December 05, 2008, 11:47:59 AM
When I have more than one book to read I just read them alphabetically.
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Post by: superclucky on December 05, 2008, 11:55:10 AM
a self management book
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Post by: Pyrate on December 05, 2008, 12:16:32 PM
The one with the horse.
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Post by: l a c e y on December 05, 2008, 12:42:51 PM
i agree, watch the one with the horse.
it's the most intense looking one.
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Daddy on December 05, 2008, 12:51:02 PM
I hate Java. ;_;
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: l a c e y on December 05, 2008, 12:54:40 PM
Quote from: Angry Kewn Fruit on December 05, 2008, 12:51:02 PM
I hate Java. ;_;


haha!
why do you have it then?
just read the one that interests you the most.
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Daddy on December 05, 2008, 12:55:04 PM
Quote from: l a c e y on December 05, 2008, 12:54:40 PM
haha!
why do you have it then?
just read the one that interests you the most.
It's a textbook lol.
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Gladjaframpf on December 05, 2008, 01:00:36 PM
Read the Java one because ActionScript is silly and Connecting with Computer Science is a lame title. baddood;

I'd have to say that this tutorial (http://devzone.zend.com/node/view/id/627) is better than any PHP book I've ever seen. Of course, the only books I looked at were the three at my local library, so that might not be a representative sample.
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Post by: YPrrrr on December 05, 2008, 01:02:00 PM
Connecting with computer science

it won my eenie meenie miney moe
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Hermione Granger on December 05, 2008, 01:04:50 PM
TWILIGHT
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: l a c e y on December 05, 2008, 01:08:12 PM
Quote from: Hermione Granger on December 05, 2008, 01:04:50 PM
TWILIGHT


that's not an option.
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Hermione Granger on December 05, 2008, 01:10:48 PM
Quote from: l a c e y on December 05, 2008, 01:08:12 PM
that's not an option.
you have no say in this matter since you don't read books
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: l a c e y on December 05, 2008, 01:12:28 PM
Quote from: Hermione Granger on December 05, 2008, 01:10:48 PM
you have no say in this matter since you don't read books


i read some books.

Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Nyerp on December 05, 2008, 01:22:15 PM
don't read any book that calls you a dummy akudood;
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Post by: russell on December 05, 2008, 01:22:27 PM
I don't know

I've never liked learning programming languages from guides, it's easier to take an existing complex script and try to edit it to do something you want, then examine how it works

is how I learned css and php and mysql stuff, from messing with forum software
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Post by: ME## on December 05, 2008, 01:59:32 PM
Java, how to programme.
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Post by: guff on December 05, 2008, 02:26:44 PM
LEARN PYTHON  madood;
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Daddy on December 05, 2008, 02:27:59 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on December 05, 2008, 02:26:44 PM
LEARN PYTHON  madood;
get me a book
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: russell on December 05, 2008, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: Angry Kewn Fruit on December 05, 2008, 02:27:59 PM
get me a book


don't learn python, it's not useful for anything

learn C and then cocoa
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: guff on December 05, 2008, 03:49:30 PM
Quote from: russell on December 05, 2008, 03:43:33 PM
don't learn python, it's not useful for anything
you're retarded  doodthing;

name something it's not useful for

ps python can access the cocoa api too
pps c is worse than java
ppps you probable meant objective c anyways
pppps that's still just as bad
ppppps you place way too much importance on gui programming and you should die in a fire
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Post by: superclucky on December 05, 2008, 05:57:56 PM
Quote from: russell on December 05, 2008, 01:22:27 PM
I don't know

I've never liked learning programming languages from guides, it's easier to take an existing complex script and try to edit it to do something you want, then examine how it works

is how I learned css and php and mysql stuff, from messing with forum software
Oh I learned this way!
It was very fun trying to figure out which pieces went were. :3

But it kinda got a little annoying with all the previews and etc. I should've downloaded something that lets me see my previews quicker back then.
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Gladjaframpf on December 05, 2008, 06:04:28 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on December 05, 2008, 03:49:30 PM
you're retarded  doodthing;

name something it's not useful for

ps python can access the cocoa api too
pps c is worse than java
ppps you probable meant objective c anyways
pppps that's still just as bad
ppppps you place way too much importance on gui programming and you should die in a fire


Well C is kind of important if you want to do low level memory management stuff. I'm not sure how recommending C is playing important on GUI programming, if he wanted that he'd probably say Visual Basic or something.

P.S. Visual Basic is the Great Satan.
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: guff on December 05, 2008, 06:31:35 PM
Quote from: Gladjaframpf on December 05, 2008, 06:04:28 PM
Well C is kind of important if you want to do low level memory management stuff.
the only people who would want to do that are likely the same that would like kicking cacti with their bare feet
Quote from: Gladjaframpf on December 05, 2008, 06:04:28 PM
I'm not sure how recommending C is playing important on GUI programming...
it's not

recommending it so he can then learn the cocoa api is (which is silly anyways because it's an os x gui only) akudood;

Quote from: Gladjaframpf on December 05, 2008, 06:04:28 PM
P.S. Visual Basic is the Great Satan.
i would rather code in brainfuck  akudood;
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Gladjaframpf on December 05, 2008, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on December 05, 2008, 06:31:35 PM
the only people who would want to do that are likely the same that would like kicking cacti with their bare feet


But the final product is more efficient!

Using C for large projects is generally not a good idea but learning it gives you a better understanding of how the computer actually works. It's also useful if you have a few small chunks of a program that you want to be really efficient, because you can use C for those pieces so you have as much control over them as possible.

Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: guff on December 05, 2008, 06:48:06 PM
Quote from: Gladjaframpf on December 05, 2008, 06:39:07 PM
But the final product is more efficient!

Using C for large projects is generally not a good idea but learning it gives you a better understanding of how the computer actually works. It's also useful if you have a few small chunks of a program that you want to be really efficient, because you can use C for those pieces so you have as much control over them as possible.


most of the time but that usually doesn't matter much outside of heavy number crunching applications baddood;

yeah but if someone hates java as jmv does, i'm pretty sure recommending c instead is a bit silly  akudood;
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Gladjaframpf on December 05, 2008, 06:53:37 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on December 05, 2008, 06:48:06 PM
most of the time but that usually doesn't matter much outside of heavy number crunching applications baddood;

yeah but if someone hates java as jmv does, i'm pretty sure recommending c instead is a bit silly  akudood;


True enough. Hey JMV, learn Scheme! You might hate it less!

http://plt-scheme.org/
http://htdp.org/
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: guff on December 05, 2008, 06:58:14 PM
Quote from: Gladjaframpf on December 05, 2008, 06:53:37 PM
True enough. Hey JMV, learn Scheme! You might hate it less!

http://plt-scheme.org/
http://htdp.org/

i keep thinking about getting into scheme but i'm terrified of parentheses akudood;

also snorkel explain your comment about python's usefulness or i will fucking bury you  baddood;
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Daddy on December 05, 2008, 07:11:15 PM
what can scheme do
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Gladjaframpf on December 05, 2008, 07:13:53 PM
Mostly it does lots of recursion.

To be honest I'm not really sure what practical applications it's good for, if any, but I really like it for writing short programs to do silly things.
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: guff on December 05, 2008, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: Angry Kewn Fruit on December 05, 2008, 07:11:15 PM
what can scheme do
i'd say in general it's more suited to mathematical applications but the gimp's script-fu engine uses it too
Title: Re: Which book should I read first(not literature)?
Post by: Daddy on December 05, 2008, 07:21:12 PM
can it play dead
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Post by: guff on December 05, 2008, 07:21:47 PM
just post the clucky conversation emulator already baddood;
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Post by: Dullahan on December 05, 2008, 07:44:18 PM
I have to use Java in my computer science course next semester. Is it better than Visual Basic?
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Post by: Gladjaframpf on December 05, 2008, 07:50:42 PM
Very yes. Although I have a bit of a grudge against VB after being forced to use it for three years in high school.