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Poll
Question: y/n
Option 1: yes votes: 21
Option 2: no votes: 2
Title: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: russell on October 22, 2008, 02:15:22 PM
currently they are prohibited from voting. I think this is ridiculous. what's your opinion?
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: guff on October 22, 2008, 02:16:06 PM
i'd vote in the poll, but i'm a convicted felon
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: superclucky on October 22, 2008, 02:16:35 PM
don't some of them study politics and government systems in the jail library

or is that just in the movies
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Thyme on October 22, 2008, 02:18:33 PM
O_0

I seriously wasn't aware of that. I don't know if it's the case in Canada, but by principle I'll say that yes, they should.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Det in F♯ Major on October 22, 2008, 02:19:07 PM
Quote from: C-Note the Dog on October 22, 2008, 02:16:35 PM
don't some of them study politics and government systems in the jail library

or is that just in the movies


i'm just in the movies
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: CutLess on October 22, 2008, 02:24:36 PM
I don't see why not.  Yes, they should be able to vote.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: ME## on October 22, 2008, 02:27:21 PM
Quote from: Thyme on October 22, 2008, 02:18:33 PM
O_0

I seriously wasn't aware of that. I don't know if it's the case in Canada, but by principle I'll say that yes, they should.


It doesn't appear so, it seems that at least some prisoners still in prison can vote, but I wouldn't know the conditions for that.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Gladjaframpf on October 22, 2008, 03:14:41 PM
Quote from: Thyme on October 22, 2008, 02:18:33 PM
O_0

I seriously wasn't aware of that. I don't know if it's the case in Canada, but by principle I'll say that yes, they should.


No, in Canada even people currently in prison can vote, and I think even in the US some states allow them to.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Wrench on October 22, 2008, 03:52:50 PM
If they aren't fucked up mentally, sure.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Samus Aran on October 22, 2008, 03:54:02 PM
Sure, why not? As long as they're not "insane" (which unfortunately would probably be based on the legal recognition of insanity, rather than the psychological).
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on October 22, 2008, 04:26:12 PM
If they only got arrested for something stupid like stealing donuts, then sure. If they're rapists and serial killers and/or mentally unstable, then no. befuddlement
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Oh on October 22, 2008, 04:55:37 PM
 Depends on their psychological state.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: LCK on October 22, 2008, 08:34:18 PM
Well, considering that voting is a right gained by citizenship, I don't see why a felon shouldn't be able to vote.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Lotos on October 25, 2008, 06:06:01 PM
Unless it (their crime) has something to do with an election/corruption, then they should get that right.

Quote from: Oh on October 22, 2008, 04:55:37 PM
Depends on their psychological state.

I forgot to factor that in.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Beta on October 25, 2008, 06:08:39 PM
They should be able to vote. Everyone deserves a say in their country, except those who don't want one.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: [REDACTED] on October 25, 2008, 06:53:32 PM
Well, on the most part, yes. But I believe murderers should not have voting rights.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Karel on October 25, 2008, 07:24:13 PM
Quote from: Ethereal on October 25, 2008, 06:53:32 PM
Well, on the most part, yes. But I believe murderers should not have voting rights.
Murderers have feelings, too.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Dullahan on October 25, 2008, 07:34:04 PM
Quote from: Ethereal on October 25, 2008, 06:53:32 PM
Well, on the most part, yes. But I believe murderers should not have voting rights.
That's prejudice.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Selkie on October 25, 2008, 07:53:21 PM
It depends really on their crime. If they like stole money or something, sure. If they are serial killers, then no, of course not.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: FAMY2 on October 25, 2008, 09:52:42 PM
How Can a Person Get the Right to Vote Restored?

Generally, a person must complete all the requirements of all felony sentences before the right to vote may be restored. This also applies to the right to serve on a jury, sign an initiative, or run for office.

For example, if a person was convicted of a felony in 1998, 2000 and 2002, the person must complete the sentences for all three cases before the right to vote is restored.  In order to complete a felony sentence, the person is no longer supervised by the Department of Corrections, has paid off all fines, restitution and other court costs, and has completed all other outstanding requirements.

By itself, a Certificate of Discharge may not confirm that a felon is once again eligible to vote.  A felon must have a Certificate of Discharge, or other order indicating that the sentence is complete, for each felony conviction.  Consequently, a felon might have a Certificate of Discharge for a 1998 conviction, but is still ineligible to vote due to outstanding convictions from 2000 and 2002.

The specific process for getting the right to vote restored depends on when and where the person was convicted.

I guess I can see why they can't. They weren't exactly being good citizens if hey were convicted of a felony.
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: [REDACTED] on October 26, 2008, 03:14:33 PM
Quote from: Salad on October 25, 2008, 07:34:04 PM
That's prejudice.
Quote from: Duke of Prunes on October 25, 2008, 07:24:13 PM
Murderers have feelings, too.
Yes. So?
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Det in F♯ Major on October 26, 2008, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: Ethereal on October 26, 2008, 03:14:33 PM
Yes. So?


Well, on the most part, yes. But I believe gays/bisexuals/anyone not heterosexual should not have voting rights.


Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: Lotos on October 26, 2008, 03:19:46 PM
Quote from: Ethereal on October 25, 2008, 06:53:32 PM
Well, on the most part, yes. But I believe murderers should not have voting rights.


But aren't murders generally put away for life?  Wait, do prisoners get to vote too?
Title: Re: should felons/ex-cons be able to vote
Post by: [REDACTED] on October 26, 2008, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: Mary Warren on October 26, 2008, 03:18:45 PM
Well, on the most part, yes. But I believe gays/bisexuals/anyone not heterosexual should not have voting rights.



You cannot recognize sarcasm(well in this context, trolling).
My real thoughts on this subject is that, yes, they should have rights.
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