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Title: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: xronniiee on September 24, 2008, 09:02:01 PM
she's not exactly...mentally stable
and today she was talking about how she couldn't get to sleep because she was having anxiety attacks. she kept thinking that god hates her and he won't allow her to go to heaven.  and she keeps thinking that she's going to be possesed.
i'm just worried about her. she keeps having all these problems. she got into another "omg ima break up with youuu" fight with her boyfriend last week, and then she thought she was pregnant (she's not though), and all this other stuff
i mean, i love her to death and she's a great friend
but i can't stand to see her all depressed and worried all the time. 

i really don't know how to help her, but i don't want to be a bad friend and do nothing...
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: FAMY2 on September 25, 2008, 05:04:43 AM
 Tell her to see her doctor. Or better go with her. Talk to her and tell her you are concerned.
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: Knig on September 25, 2008, 09:32:38 AM
Sit down with her and have a serious discussion. Ask her the reasons she believes God hates her/etc., and try to find the root of the problem. Sometimes people really just need someone to tell all their troubles to.

If it comes to the case where she should see a psychiatrist/psychologist, tell her how seeing a docotr for mental health reasons is perfectly acceptable and are not reserved for insane maniacs. It's a common misconception some of my friends had when they needed a little help.
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: Daddy on September 25, 2008, 11:04:49 AM
i had an anxiety attack and went to the hospital.  baddood;

i wouldn't advise having her take medication since even though it helps me sometimes I do end up having some bad side effects.  powerofone;
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: xronniiee on September 25, 2008, 08:20:57 PM
Quote from: Rycerz on September 25, 2008, 09:32:38 AM
Sit down with her and have a serious discussion. Ask her the reasons she believes God hates her/etc., and try to find the root of the problem. Sometimes people really just need someone to tell all their troubles to.

If it comes to the case where she should see a psychiatrist/psychologist, tell her how seeing a docotr for mental health reasons is perfectly acceptable and are not reserved for insane maniacs. It's a common misconception some of my friends had when they needed a little help.

i'm a little scared to talk with her because i feel if i say the wrong thing to her, she'll freak out.  plus her boyfriend is kinda scary too and he gets jealous when other guys are with her....so i don't wanna cause trouble with that
and she has been to see our schools psychiatrist (but i have too, just because he's like...one of the bombest people everrrr). last week she went to the doctor's to get a brain scan because her anxiety has been so bad lately.
she just seems to have all these problems, and i really do wanna be there for her and help her...it's just hard..
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: Houdini on September 25, 2008, 08:28:55 PM
The best thing to do is to have a long, open, one-on-one talk about it and from there doing what you can to make her situation better. If she can afford it, I know from personal experience that hooking up with a good therapist can work wonders.
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: xronniiee on September 25, 2008, 08:30:38 PM
Quote from: Houdini on September 25, 2008, 08:28:55 PM
The best thing to do is to have a long, open, one-on-one talk about it and from there doing what you can to make her situation better. If she can afford it, I know from personal experience that hooking up with a good therapist can work wonders.

she professional help every so often
but i really don't know if it's working or not..
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: Houdini on September 25, 2008, 08:32:35 PM
Quote from: xronniiee on September 25, 2008, 08:30:38 PM
she professional help every so often
but i really don't know if it's working or not..
There's a good chance the psychologist she's seeing sucks. I also know from personal experience that it takes a few tries to find the right psychologist.
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: xronniiee on September 25, 2008, 08:37:43 PM
Quote from: Houdini on September 25, 2008, 08:32:35 PM
There's a good chance the psychologist she's seeing sucks. I also know from personal experience that it takes a few tries to find the right psychologist.

do you think i should help her find a good one or leave that up to her??
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: Houdini on September 25, 2008, 08:45:56 PM
Quote from: xronniiee on September 25, 2008, 08:37:43 PM
do you think i should help her find a good one or leave that up to her??
You should definitely help her. It always feels good to know that someone is helping you out.
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: xronniiee on September 25, 2008, 08:53:05 PM
Quote from: Houdini on September 25, 2008, 08:45:56 PM
You should definitely help her. It always feels good to know that someone is helping you out.

thats true..
thanks <3
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: l a c e y on October 06, 2008, 06:54:51 AM
why would you even write about that on here.
im pretty sure she wouldnt enjoy reading about herself on here.
jesus.
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: Almighty Wyld Wrath on October 06, 2008, 09:48:29 AM
Tell her not to sweat her fate because she doesn't have much control over it anyway and worrying about it won't help.
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: Houdini on October 09, 2008, 03:47:42 PM
Quote from: Almighty Wyld Wrath on October 06, 2008, 09:48:29 AM
Tell her not to sweat her fate because she doesn't have much control over it anyway and worrying about it won't help.
What the hell? Yeah, actually she does. It's not like God is trying to make her life suck. She can alter her situation if she wants.
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: YPrrrr on October 09, 2008, 06:20:01 PM
Quote from: Almighty Wyld Wrath on October 06, 2008, 09:48:29 AM
Tell her not to sweat her fate because she doesn't have much control over it anyway and worrying about it won't help.
Pre-determinism is a terrible belief
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: FAMY2 on October 10, 2008, 07:43:39 PM
Quote from: Flying Circus on October 09, 2008, 06:20:01 PM
Pre-determinism is a terrible belief


And you believe we have control and can change the outcome? I don't know what I think.
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: Mortel on October 11, 2008, 02:23:01 PM
Another good idea might be to talk to your friend's parents.

If you get a chance to speak with her parents privately when your friend is not around (I don't know how that would occur), tell them that you are deeply concerned about their child's well being, and you seriously think something needs to be done.  Explain the situation to them, and let it go from there.  Be careful to not do it in a way that will send your friend into another anxiety attack, though.
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: the shortest route to the sea on October 11, 2008, 03:13:40 PM
Quote from: Mortel on October 11, 2008, 02:23:01 PM
Another good idea might be to talk to your friend's parents.

If you get a chance to speak with her parents privately when your friend is not around (I don't know how that would occur), tell them that you are deeply concerned about their child's well being, and you seriously think something needs to be done.  Explain the situation to them, and let it go from there.  Be careful to not do it in a way that will send your friend into another anxiety attack, though.


Going through a friend's parents assumes that the parents have nothing to do with the problem; if they did, they would definitely react in some way against her telling people, which would only make the situation worse. Also, from personal experience, the scariest thing for any disorder or pain sometimes is that your parents find out. It's usually irrational, but still, she could have another panic attack, even while they're helping her. It's best to talk to her directly, and try to listen more than you speak (allowing her to speak and allowing you less chance to mess up).

A good therapist does just this, while combining other basic skills. They must be first good listeners, but they must also know how to react after listening, usually by asking the right questions. I agree wholeheartedly with finding the right one, who balances listening and response, while also knowing when they should initiate some sort of action in a patient's life (like medication or speaking with someone).

Quote from: Clair on October 10, 2008, 07:43:39 PM
And you believe we have control and can change the outcome? I don't know what I think.


I tend towards Satre's explanation: that we are technically free and technically bound. We are free to make choices, and those choices are inherent in our existence and in our free will, but we are bound and confined by the choices we make for the rest of our lives. To be totally free is to be under the weight of your own choices alone, knowing that you are completely responsible.
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: jerk1 on October 13, 2008, 01:51:21 PM
LIVE
Title: Re: i'm kinda worried for my friend
Post by: Almighty Wyld Wrath on October 30, 2008, 08:31:00 AM
Quote from: Houdini on October 09, 2008, 03:47:42 PM
What the hell? Yeah, actually she does. It's not like God is trying to make her life suck. She can alter her situation if she wants.


Quote from: Flying Circus on October 09, 2008, 06:20:01 PM
Pre-determinism is a terrible belief


I'm not saying we're all going to die and then go to heaven or hell or whatever, accept it and move on.

I'm saying we're all going to DIE, Accept it, Get on with your life.

I don't know what the truth is about the afterlife and I don't pretend to know.  I also don't pretend to know the intricate mechanics of the universe.  Thus I don't bother concerning myself with who's right, who's wrong, or what deity needs me to praise his name on a regular basis to  satisfy his ego.

You can't possibly be absolutely certain of how this whole 'existence' works so all you can do is stick to your convictions, be willing to hear the opposing argument, and live your life to the best of your ability.  staying up till 5 in the morning giving yourself a panic attack over and over again because you can't figure out something that is by nature beyond human comprehension won't help anyone or anything.