(http://www.303rdbg.com/pow-flag.jpg)
Pay your respect.
Thank you.
(http://markparadis.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/memorial-day.jpg)
91,000 dead Iraqi civilians and counting whoooo
but at least I can not take fluids on airplanes anymore, that's a bonus
Do you have change for 10?
Quote from: Snorkel on May 25, 2008, 06:56:10 PM
91,000 dead Iraqi civilians and counting whoooo
but at least I can not take fluids on airplanes anymore, that's a bonus
What about WWII? Should we forget the soldiers who fought in that war?
Quote from: JMV on May 25, 2008, 06:57:52 PM
What about WWII Should we forget the soldiers who fought in that war?
I think we should remember the 8,000,000+ dead under Stalin during the same time more
Quote from: Snorkel on May 25, 2008, 06:56:10 PM
91,000 dead Iraqi civilians and counting whoooo
but at least I can not take fluids on airplanes anymore, that's a bonus
Hey at least you can go outside without the risk of being blown apart by a car bomb or shot in the head.
Quote from: Selkie224 on May 25, 2008, 07:03:48 PM
Hey at least you can go outside without the risk of being blown apart by a car bomb or shot in the head.
which is why the innocent civilians who are subject to this and have no other choice but to attempt to live lives are far more pitiful than soldiers who signed up for it
think of your best friend dying
and then imagine it happening 91,000 times, none of these times for any good reason
You may be a pot smoking motherfucker, but at least you pay respects. rep;
Quote from: Snorkel on May 25, 2008, 06:56:10 PM
91,000 dead Iraqi civilians and counting whoooo
but at least I can not take fluids on airplanes anymore, that's a bonus
"Once we have a war there is only one thing to do. It must be won. For defeat brings worse things than any that can ever happen in war. "
Ernest Miller HemmingwayI will say this; war is a terrible thing, but not the most evil of things, sometimes it is a necessary evil. In any case this is not about getting into a debate about politics. This is about honoring the people that get caught up in them while serving our country.
And to all those men and women who have severed with distinction since even before the official creation of our Union, and to those who still serve, I am grateful for my past, my present and future.
(http://sansalvador.usembassy.gov/irc/news/2007/5/memorialday.jpg)
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Freedom is not free my friend.
wut about the holocaust doodthing;
Quote from: Socks on May 25, 2008, 07:10:38 PM
"Once we have a war there is only one thing to do. It must be won. For defeat brings worse things than any that can ever happen in war. "
Ernest Miller Hemmingway
I will say this; war is a terrible thing, but not the most evil of things, sometimes it is a necessary evil. In any case this is not about getting into a debate about politics. This is about honoring the people that get caught up in them while serving our country.
And to all those men and women who have severed with distinction since even before the official creation of our Union, and to those who still serve, I am grateful for my past, my present and future.
(http://sansalvador.usembassy.gov/irc/news/2007/5/memorialday.jpg)
(http://z.about.com/d/gosoutheast/1/5/-/8/-/-/UKNsalute2.jpg)
Freedom is not free my friend.
Ha, "freedom." To me freedom isn't the "right" to go outside and see flashing billboards and other corporate creations selling me things everywhere I look. It's not the freedom to pick Bad Candidate or Worse Candidate in a fucked up 2-party system of a "democratic republic", to be freely bugged and spied on, to possibly be arrested without warrant and imprisoned without trial. To me freedom isn't living to fulfill imbecilic societal notions of "political correctness" or having revised history forced into my head or corporate media giants telling me every untruth imaginable, all the time.
The only difference between the United States and some other country you think has less "freedom" is that you and most people in this country are so in tune with all the patriotic/nationalistic bullshit that you can't even imagine anything
but the idea that the United States couldn't possibly not be the best place in the world.
You know, for all your diatribe of what you view as wrongs within our society and nation you overlooked one little thing. I dare say you are still fine and free to do was you please after posting that comment to the world, a luxury which the majority of people around the world do not enjoy.
This thread is not about the United States, and the more abstract implications of it. It is simply about honoring and remembering those common folks that choose the uncommon path and the ungracious duty to protect and serve without asking anything in return from you.
So forgive me but a simple "Thank You" from such a cynic is in order, now get over yourself and some self asserted righteous view. That all flies out the window in such cases, so put it behind and stand besides me as a common American in thanking our true heroes.
(http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2006/0612/iraq_3000_1229.jpg)
This ignorant patriotism really doesn't need to be here, at least take it to serious discussion.
It's Memorial Day? I thought it was Labor Day.
American Soldier lyrics
I'm just trying to be a father,
Raise a daughter and a son,
Be a lover to their mother,
Everything to everyone.
Up and at 'em bright and early,
I'm all business in my suit,
Yeah, I'm dressed for success from my head down to my boots,
I don't do it for money, there's still bills that I can't pay,
I don't do it for the glory, I just do it anyway,
Providing for our future's my responsibility,
Yeah I'm real good under pressure, being all that I can be,
And I can't call in sick on Mondays when the weekends been to strong,
I just work straight through the holidays,
And sometimes all night long.
You can bet that I stand ready when the wolf growls at the door,
Hey, I'm solid, hey I'm steady, hey I'm true down to the core,
And I will always do my duty, no matter what the price,
I've counted up the cost, I know the sacrifice,
Oh, and I don't want to die for you,
But if dyin's asked of me,
I'll bear that cross with an honor,
'Cause freedom don't come free.
I'm an American soldier, an American,
Beside my brothers and my sisters I will proudly take a stand,
When liberty's in jeopardy I will always do what's right,
I'm out here on the front lines, sleep in peace tonight.
American soldier, I'm an American,
An American,
An American Soldier
Quote from: 36 on May 25, 2008, 07:42:12 PM
This ignorant patriotism really doesn't need to be here, at least take it to serious discussion.
Excuse me? There is nothing ignorant about it, neither do I consider it blatant patriotism.
Quote from: sam on May 25, 2008, 07:44:41 PM
It's Memorial Day? I thought it was Labor Day.
Labor Day is in September doodthing;
Quote from: Socks on May 25, 2008, 07:47:25 PM
Excuse me? There is nothing ignorant about it, neither do I consider it blatant patriotism.
36 is too young to know about the country, he's still in 8th grade.
Quote from: Snorkel on May 25, 2008, 07:18:59 PM
Ha, "freedom." To me freedom isn't the "right" to go outside and see flashing billboards and other corporate creations selling me things everywhere I look. It's not the freedom to pick Bad Candidate or Worse Candidate in a fucked up 2-party system of a "democratic republic", to be freely bugged and spied on, to possibly be arrested without warrant and imprisoned without trial. To me freedom isn't living to fulfill imbecilic societal notions of "political correctness" or having revised history forced into my head or corporate media giants telling me every untruth imaginable, all the time.
The only difference between the United States and some other country you think has less "freedom" is that you and most people in this country are so in tune with all the patriotic/nationalistic bullshit that you can't even imagine anything but the idea that the United States couldn't possibly not be the best place in the world.
Oh my sweet god, just because you wear tight jeans and fedoras doesn't mean you're some insanely deep, artistic, all-knowing rebel.
Read that ridiculous and uncalled for first paragraph. You're such a god damn idiot. Stop believing what everyone tells you. Everything you just said sounds straight out of a YouTube video response. OH GOD, BILLBOARDS, YOU POOR BABY. Get used it. You've been arrested without warrant? Nice job.
No one forced you to vote.
Quote from: Title on May 25, 2008, 07:48:56 PM
Oh my sweet god, just because you wear tight jeans and fedoras doesn't mean you're some insanely deep, artistic, all-knowing rebel.
Read that ridiculous and uncalled for first paragraph. You're such a god damn idiot. Stop believing what everyone tells you. Everything you just said sounds straight out of a YouTube video response. OH GOD, BILLBOARDS, YOU POOR BABY. Get used it. You've been arrested without warrant? Nice job.
No one forced you to vote.
Your talking to someone who plays Warhammer with miniature figurines or some shit like that. Of course he's going to post shit like that.
Quote from: Niko Bellic on May 25, 2008, 07:48:35 PM
36 is too young to know about the country, he's still in 8th grade.
I'm in the 10th grade dumbass.
Quote from: 36 on May 25, 2008, 07:51:41 PM
I'm in the 10th grade dumbass.
It does not matter really, age does not mean anything to the state of mind when it's not properly applied.
Also...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G1FvlPakkU[/youtube]
Also, shut up. Use serious discussion if you want to debate the validity of a war, socio-economic systems, etc, and let Socks have his thread.
I'm getting tired of locking threads because people feel the need to bitch about everything.
also i'm not defending this war or imperialistic tendencies but you don't need to derail a thread just because you disagree.
Quote from: Snorkel on May 25, 2008, 07:18:59 PM
Ha, "freedom." To me freedom isn't the "right" to go outside and see flashing billboards and other corporate creations selling me things everywhere I look. It's not the freedom to pick Bad Candidate or Worse Candidate in a fucked up 2-party system of a "democratic republic", to be freely bugged and spied on, to possibly be arrested without warrant and imprisoned without trial. To me freedom isn't living to fulfill imbecilic societal notions of "political correctness" or having revised history forced into my head or corporate media giants telling me every untruth imaginable, all the time.
The only difference between the United States and some other country you think has less "freedom" is that you and most people in this country are so in tune with all the patriotic/nationalistic bullshit that you can't even imagine anything but the idea that the United States couldn't possibly not be the best place in the world.
England seems to be the same way from my experiences on /b/.
Quote from: Socks on May 25, 2008, 07:10:38 PM
Freedom is not free my friend.
wry Beautiful quote. It makes me think of all the people who aren't coming back from Iraq. And for oil too.
Quote from: Lotos on May 25, 2008, 08:17:43 PM
England seems to be the same way from my experiences on /b/.
wry Beautiful quote. It makes me think of all the people who aren't coming back from Iraq. And for oil too.
Reading: do you do it?
Quote from: JMV on May 25, 2008, 08:10:45 PM
Also, shut up. Use serious discussion if you want to debate the validity of a war, socio-economic systems, etc, and let Socks have his thread.
I'm getting tired of locking threads because people feel the need to bitch about everything.
also i'm not defending this war or imperialistic tendencies but you don't need to derail a thread just because you disagree.
Quote from: Sonic the Hedgehog on May 25, 2008, 08:17:31 PM
I don't pay attention to nonsense.
In my opinion they have given you the ability to have this choice, but it is yours to make.
Quote from: Socks on May 25, 2008, 07:28:16 PM
You know, for all your diatribe of what you view as wrongs within our society and nation you overlooked one little thing. I dare say you are still fine and free to do was you please after posting that comment to the world, a luxury which the majority of people around the world do not enjoy.
Oh come on, do you really believe that? Just because I know you do, I'll painstakingly do math
Let's look at a world map and count all the countries where, most likely, you could "do [what] you please after posting that comment to the world", and then count their populations:
United States 304,162,000
Mexico 108,700,891
Canada 33,273,000
South Africa 43,700,000
United Kingdom 60,587,300
Australia 21,300,000
New Zealand 4,525,000
Iceland 316,000
Sri Lanka 20,010,000
Indonesia 234,693,000
Russia 142,008,000
India 1,132,446,000
Senegal 11,658,000
Rwanda 10,186,000
Algeria 33,333,000
Morocco 33,757,000
Tunisia 10,102,000
Zaire 5,487,000
Democratic Republic of Congo 62,600,000
Liberia 3,386,000
Spain 45,200,737
France 64,473,000
Portugal 10,848,000
Germany 82,210,000
Estonia 1,340,000
Lithuania 3,369,000
Latvia 2,270,000
Belarus 9,689,000
Ukraine 46,372,000
Romania 22,246,000
Croatia 4,453,000
Serbia 10,150,000
Poland 38,518,000
Norway 4,752,000
Sweden 9,196,000
Finland 5,308,000
Italy 59,448,000
Greece 11,216,000
Argentina 40,301,000
Brazil 186,757,000
Chile 16,598,000
Papau New Guinea 6,300,000
South Korea 49,000,000
Japan 127,433,000
I'm sure I've left out quite a few, but these should be the major ones (I also omitted some that I am unsure of the political state of, such as French Guyana and much of Africa)
Now, I'll add up the total population of the "free world."
Total: 3,134,668,891 The total estimated population of the world right now is about 6,700,000,000, which makes the "free world" approximately 46.8% of the world population. While not truly the majority, if you consider that 37% of the "unfree" world could be gained by forcefully impressing glorious American ideals upon China and thus making the "free" world a hearty 83.8%, the United States doesn't seem so special after all, does it? And of course there's still all those annoying thing that make the US really unfree, which I mentioned in my previous post.
Quote from: Socks on May 25, 2008, 07:28:16 PM
This thread is not about the United States, and the more abstract implications of it. It is simply about honoring and remembering those common folks that choose the uncommon path and the ungracious duty to protect and serve without asking anything in return from you.
You're right, they only ask for 35% of my annual income to support a pointless war that has cost $522,758,499,000 over the past few years while things like education have been neglected. In fact, the annual federal expenditure on education is somewhere around $30-40b... just 6.6% of the war expense I quotes above. If you're interested, there's more info about federal war expenses here (http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home).
Quote from: Socks on May 25, 2008, 07:28:16 PM
So forgive me but a simple "Thank You" from such a cynic is in order, now get over yourself and some self asserted righteous view. That all flies out the window in such cases, so put it behind and stand besides me as a common American in thanking our true heroes.
I might offer my condolences to a soldier if I met one, but I'm certainly not thanking anyone.
You know, I had a feeling you would actually try to do some ridicules math on that, thanks for missing the point entirely.
Now if you will take your free chosen view and let my thread and it cause be I'd appreciate it.
Nice threads Socks. My uncle just got back from Afghanistan a couple days ago. I wish I could spend tomorrow with him.
STOP SAYING RIDICULES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Ridiculous GOD I MADE FUN OF THAT TYPO IN THE ANONYMOUS BOARD
Ok JMV.
Quote from: Socks on May 25, 2008, 08:35:49 PM
You know, I had a feeling you would actually try to do some ridicules math on that, thanks for missing the point entirely.
Now if you will take your free chosen view and let my thread and it cause be I'd appreciate it.
And what was the "entire point," then?
Quote from: Snorkel on May 25, 2008, 08:44:31 PM
And what was the "entire point," then?
Ha, hope you enjoy yourself tomorrow.
According to Snorkel we can't support the troops because the evil corporations make too many billboards
Quote from: Title link=topic=28667.msg464245#msg464245 date=1211773999
According to Snorkel we can't support the troops because the evil corporations make too many billboards
Would you like me to tell you about how the military is currently a tool of corporate America?
Quote from: Snorkel on May 25, 2008, 08:55:13 PM
Would you like me to tell you about how the military is currently a tool of corporate America?
Everything is.
Haven't you got used to it yet? doodthing;
Quote from: Snorkel on May 25, 2008, 08:55:13 PM
Would you like me to tell you about how the military is currently a tool of corporate America?
Sure. Which Independent film will you be drawing from this time?
Quote from: Title link=topic=28667.msg464254#msg464254 date=1211774285
Sure. Which Independent film will you be drawing from this time?
I don't understand why you're attacking my interests, which by the way don't include tight jeans or fedoras or "knowing everything" or "being artistic", but do actually include independent film to some extent. What do these things have to do with the discussion at hand?
Quote from: Snorkel on May 25, 2008, 09:04:16 PM
What do these things have to do with the discussion at hand?
There shouldn't even be a discussion as this is a thread for showing appreciation. If you disagree then don't ruin it with some dragged out shit fest, you're not oppressed, start your own thread.
I had my suspicions all night long and they have just been justified. Google has not changed it's name into a theme befitting and honoring Memorial Day, a federal holiday. One of the most meaningful in our calendar, yet Google does not see such an event worry. However just recently I observed a change marking the life of a German architect, forgive me, but the name escapes me at the moment. As such, it is abundantly clear that the subliminal message is not lacking, Google does indeed run a tainted morality. For I'm sure the cooperate sponsored Google China has a lot of important dates and leaders which it makes and celebrates for the masses.
That is all.
Quote from: Socks on May 26, 2008, 02:42:08 AM
I had my suspicions all night long and they have just been justified. Google has not changed it's name into a theme befitting and honoring Memorial Day, a federal holiday. One of the most meaningful in our calendar, yet Google does not see such an event worry. However just recently I observed a change marking the life of a German architect, forgive me, but the name escapes me at the moment. As such, it is abundantly clear that the subliminal message is not lacking, Google does indeed run a tainted morality. For I'm sure the cooperate sponsored Google China has a lot of important dates and leaders which it makes and celebrates for the masses.
That is all.
you're funny doodella;
Ha.
I thank all those that have fought for our country and those who have died doing it.
My dad served in Vietnam Socks.