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Title: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: Selkie on November 27, 2007, 02:23:31 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Klein_bottle.svg/250px-Klein_bottle.svg.png)

The Klein Bottle. A 3 dimensional object, with one surface.

Is the klein bottle a valid explanation of the fourth dimension?

Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: Feynman on November 27, 2007, 02:24:03 PM
Now find the surface area. psyduck;
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: Selkie on November 27, 2007, 02:30:22 PM
Quote from: Bassir C. on November 27, 2007, 02:24:03 PM
Now find the surface area. psyduck;


it has an infinite surface area
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: bluaki on November 27, 2007, 02:33:48 PM
Quote from: Super Mario Galaxy on November 27, 2007, 02:30:22 PM
it has an infinite surface area
No it doesn't psyduck;
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: Selkie on November 27, 2007, 02:34:14 PM
Quote from: bluaki on November 27, 2007, 02:33:48 PM
No it doesn't psyduck;


Why not?
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: bluaki on November 27, 2007, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: Selkie on November 27, 2007, 02:34:14 PM
Why not?
You start at one ring around it, then measure the path along the surfaces until you reach the same ring again psyduck;
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: Selkie on November 27, 2007, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: bluaki on November 27, 2007, 02:38:28 PM
You start at one ring around it, then measure the path along the surfaces until you reach the same ring again psyduck;


edumacate;
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 27, 2007, 02:44:03 PM
...What's so special about it?
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: FullmetalGanon on November 27, 2007, 02:47:19 PM
what about (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/8-cell-simple.gif)?
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: guff on November 27, 2007, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: Selkie on November 27, 2007, 02:23:31 PM
Is the klein bottle a valid explanation of the fourth dimension?
why would it be

Quote from: Selkie on November 27, 2007, 02:30:22 PM
it has an infinite surface area
how do you figure that? psyduck;
it can be constructed (well, closely emulated at the very least given that the self-intersection presents a problem) with a finite amount of material, thus it has a finite surface area psyduck;

it's not all that different from a mobius strip; it's just something with no distinction between the inside and outside, not a representation of the fourth dimension what the christ psyduck;

Quote from: No on November 27, 2007, 02:47:19 PM
what about (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/8-cell-simple.gif)?
yes what about it
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: Houdini on November 27, 2007, 03:59:48 PM
No. That's like saying MC Escher's work is a valid explanation for string theory.
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: The artist formally known on November 27, 2007, 04:40:36 PM
Quote from: Selkie on November 27, 2007, 02:30:22 PM
it has an infinite surface area
ahaha good one
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: Snorkel on November 27, 2007, 05:51:27 PM
Quote from: bluaki on November 27, 2007, 03:59:48 PM
No. That's like saying MC Escher's work is a valid explanation for string theory.


Haha, true. I laughed.
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: The artist formally known on November 27, 2007, 06:01:59 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-97057222894136590

Enjoy
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: j o e i n c on November 27, 2007, 06:03:51 PM
no
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 27, 2007, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: Selkie on November 27, 2007, 02:30:22 PM
it has an infinite surface area
So a sphere has an infinite surface area because there's not an endpoint? psyduck;
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: wolflink64 on November 27, 2007, 07:01:00 PM
Quote from: reefer on November 27, 2007, 06:01:59 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-97057222894136590

Enjoy

I've envisioned up to the 7th dimension before...but the rest just blows my mind.  psyduck;

Get me moar. I like blowing up my mind.  caterpie;
Title: Re: The True Fourth Demension?
Post by: The artist formally known on November 28, 2007, 12:24:35 AM
Quote from: wolflink64 on November 27, 2007, 07:01:00 PM
I've envisioned up to the 7th dimension before...but the rest just blows my mind.  psyduck;

Get me moar. I like blowing up my mind.  caterpie;
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