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Title: outerspace
Post by: Daddy on November 23, 2007, 02:17:38 PM
its so awsum.

lawlz and i diskus it last nite
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 02:20:13 PM
THE THIRD DIMENSION IS NOT A SLICE OF THE FOURTH, GODDAMNIT.
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Selkie on November 23, 2007, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 02:20:13 PM
THE THIRD DIMENSION IS NOT A SLICE OF THE FOURTH, GODDAMNIT.


Yah it is

every dimension is a point of the next one
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 02:31:12 PM
Quote from: Super Mario Galaxy on November 23, 2007, 02:28:31 PM
Yah it is

every dimension is a point of the next one
matter !=time

They combine to form more complex planes of existence and whatnot; much like ingredients in a delicious pie. Take out the delicious cherries, and you're left with a biscuit. Take out the eggs and milk and you're left with flour and all that other dry stuff

If it was a slice, then once slice would be delicious cherry pie and another solid titanium..
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Selkie on November 23, 2007, 02:32:54 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 02:31:12 PM
matter !=time

They combine to form more complex planes of existence and whatnot; much like ingredients in a delicious pie. Take out the delicious cherries, and you're left with a biscuit. Take out the eggs and milk and you're left with flour and all that other dry stuff

If it was a slice, then once slice would be delicious cherry pie and another solid titanium..


Consider being a science teacher.

Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Daddy on November 23, 2007, 02:37:41 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 02:31:12 PM
matter !=time

They combine to form more complex planes of existence and whatnot; much like ingredients in a delicious pie. Take out the delicious cherries, and you're left with a biscuit. Take out the eggs and milk and you're left with flour and all that other dry stuff

If it was a slice, then once slice would be delicious cherry pie and another solid titanium..
the third dimension isn't matter either.

THE FIRST 3 DIMENSIONS ARE SPACIAL DIMENSIONS.



lawlz just doesn't understand stufz
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 02:37:41 PM
the third dimension isn't matter either.

THE FIRST 3 DIMENSIONS ARE SPACIAL DIMENSIONS.



lawlz just doesn't understand stufz
BUT EVERYTHING IN THIS DIMENSION THAT EXISTS IS COMPOSED OF MATTER OF PHOTONS OR OTHER CRAZY SHIT

ie stuff that physically exists

Time is a concept, so if anything, it would be the recipe for the pie.

also i wanted to say something like measurement of space or something but i didn't want to use the word dimension and wanted to try explaining it in some way or whatever but it appears that failed
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Daddy on November 23, 2007, 02:42:39 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 02:40:32 PM
BUT EVERYTHING IN THIS DIMENSION THAT EXISTS IS COMPOSED OF MATTER OF PHOTONS OR OTHER CRAZY SHIT

ie stuff that physically exists

Time is a concept, so if anything, it would be the recipe for the pie.

also i wanted to say something like measurement of space or something but i didn't want to use the word dimension and wanted to try explaining it in some way or whatever but it appears that failed


stop using pie as an example for how you understand how dimensions work.  That's why you can't understand anything.

http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php

watch that.  it's not entirely what I'm trying to say since it talks about folds, and i'm talking about infinitely thin slices, but you can't stop thinking about pie.
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 02:46:04 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 02:42:39 PM
stop using pie as an example for how you understand how dimensions work.  That's why you can't understand anything.

http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php

watch that.  it's not entirely what I'm trying to say since it talks about folds, and i'm talking about infinitely thin slices, but you can't stop thinking about pie.
BECAUSE PIES ARE CUT INTO SLICES GODDAMN

Also, I've watched it.  Do you measure how large an object is in minutes and seconds? no because spacial area filled or whatever isn't the same as time but instead combine to form a higher level of existence or another dimension but it's possible to measure how long it takes to build a house of a specific size
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Daddy on November 23, 2007, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 02:46:04 PM
BECAUSE PIES ARE CUT INTO SLICES GODDAMN

Also, I've watched it.  Do you measure how large an object is in minutes and seconds? no because spacial area filled or whatever isn't the same as time but instead combine to form a higher level of existence or another dimension but it's possible to measure how long it takes to build a house of a specific size
NOT INFINITELY THIN SLICES. STOP USING PIE


YOU'RE TOO BUSY THINKING OF DIMENSIONS AS ALL CONSUMING PHYSICAL SPACE.  STOP AND JUST LISTEN.
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 03:02:01 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 02:57:59 PM
NOT INFINITELY THIN SLICES. STOP USING PIE


YOU'RE TOO BUSY THINKING OF DIMENSIONS AS ALL CONSUMING PHYSICAL SPACE.  STOP AND JUST LISTEN.
NO, NOT ALL DIMENSIONS SIMPLY ADD ANOTHER DEGREE OF CONSUMING SPACE. WHEN YOU SAY SLICE, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SPACE SOMETHING OCCUPIES. TIME !=A SLICE, GODDAMNIT

also what if you bring a pie into the second dimension asshole would it be divided into infinitely thing slices or would it still be a whole pie yes itd be a slice now what if you bring that pie into the fourth dimension it's still the same pie right supposedly yes bring it into the fifth dimension and it should still remain the same pie nothing is added or subtracted
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Daddy on November 23, 2007, 03:06:55 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 03:02:01 PM
NO, NOT ALL DIMENSIONS SIMPLY ADD ANOTHER DEGREE OF CONSUMING SPACE. WHEN YOU SAY SLICE, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SPACE SOMETHING OCCUPIES. TIME !=A SLICE, GODDAMNIT

also what if you bring a pie into the second dimension asshole would it be divided into infinitely thing slices or would it still be a whole pie yes itd be a slice now what if you bring that pie into the fourth dimension it's still the same pie right supposedly yes bring it into the fifth dimension and it should still remain the same pie nothing is added or subtracted
im not using slice as a physical amount of space. its what it would appear to be. so a 3d object an a specific time is an infinitely thin slice(cross section if u want other wordz) of what it would would be in time.  you're viewing it as an exact moment

nothing is added or subtracted from anything.


snorkel is able to understand
tomboh can understand
even selkie can

why can't you




also trying to explain abstract concepts to you has the effect on my brain that trying to pump a vacuum(as in empty not the rug cleaner) would have on the pump.
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Snorkel on November 23, 2007, 03:15:26 PM
The best way to think of higher dimensions is like...

Think of someone in a 2D world. Something like having a digestive system would be impossible, because it would physically split them in half (think of it like drawing someone on a piece of paper, and that being their entire existence).

For this 2D person to be thrust into our 3D world would be completely baffling, and their head would probably explode in confusion.

Now think of going between our humble 3rd dimension and higher ones like this. We can't possibly understand.
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 03:06:55 PM
im not using slice as a physical amount of space. its what it would appear to be. so a 3d object an a specific time is an infinitely thin slice(cross section if u want other wordz) of what it would would be in time.  you're viewing it as an exact moment
i get what you're saying but the problem is i don't see putting everything as an infinitely thin slice as a way of explaining all dimensions psyduck;



Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 03:06:55 PMsnorkel is able to understand
tomboh can understand
even selkie can

why can't you

or maybe all of you are wrong
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Daddy on November 23, 2007, 03:21:30 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 03:15:49 PM
i get what you're saying but the problem is i don't see putting everything as an infinitely thin slice as a way of explaining all dimensions psyduck;
only up to the 4th.
after that things get confusing.

Quote
or maybe all of you are wrong
and string theory too
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 03:38:09 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 03:21:30 PM

and string theory too
cherry pie theory is indisputable
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Daddy on November 23, 2007, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 03:38:09 PM
cherry pie theory is indisputable
ur mom
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Houdini on November 23, 2007, 03:46:24 PM
I like butts
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 23, 2007, 03:47:22 PM
Space and time are so confusing to me. I love it. magician;
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: guff on November 23, 2007, 03:50:55 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 02:37:41 PM
THE FIRST 3 DIMENSIONS ARE SPACIAL DIMENSIONS.
what makes them the first psyduck;

Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 03:21:30 PM
and string theory too
i can see that
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Daddy on November 23, 2007, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 23, 2007, 03:50:55 PM
what makes them the first psyduck;

their name.

they are called the first, second, and third dimension.

sure they would still be the same if they were called the red, pink, and maroon dimensions.

ask science.
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 03:59:39 PM
their name.

they are called the first, second, and third dimension.

sure they would still be the same if they were called the red, pink, and maroon dimensions.

ask science.
no because a pink shape isn't necessarily the same as a 3d figure :|
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 23, 2007, 04:02:55 PM
you know what ive always wanted to know
how does the 1st dimension work
If a 2D figure in the 2nd dimension turns to the side, there is absolutely nothing there. Its side is nonexistent. So is the first dimension nothing? psyduck;
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Daddy on November 23, 2007, 04:04:40 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 04:00:52 PM
no because a pink shape isn't necessarily the same as a 3d figure :|
it would still be what we perceive as 3d if it had another name.


if we called shoes bintires they would still go one our feet.
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Selkie on November 23, 2007, 04:05:22 PM
Quote from: PHANTOM PHANTRON on November 23, 2007, 04:02:55 PM
you know what ive always wanted to know
how does the 1st dimension work
If a 2D figure in the 2nd dimension turns to the side, there is absolutely nothing there. Its side is nonexistent. So is the first dimension nothing? psyduck;


First dimension is a point. We would not physically be able to se what it's like in that point, but I think of it like being stuck in a very small box, so you can't move at all.

Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 23, 2007, 04:05:32 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 04:04:40 PM
it would still be what we perceive as 3d if it had another name.


if we called shoes bintires they would still go one our feet.

fuck i lol'd
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Selkie on November 23, 2007, 04:06:47 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 04:04:40 PM
it would still be what we perceive as 3d if it had another name.


if we called shoes bintires they would still go one our feet.


The amount of metaphors in this thread is getting as ridiculous as a camel walking upside down on a 4th dimension.
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 04:08:36 PM
Quote from: PHANTOM PHANTRON on November 23, 2007, 04:02:55 PM
you know what ive always wanted to know
how does the 1st dimension work
If a 2D figure in the 2nd dimension turns to the side, there is absolutely nothing there. Its side is nonexistent. So is the first dimension nothing? psyduck;
if an object could turn to its side i'd assume that'd mean it would enter an entirely new universe but how could something live in the second dimension and how could it see how the hell would light work if at all etc

no one could really know seeing as how none of our universal laws of physics or anything like that apply to the second dimension
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 04:04:40 PM
it would still be what we perceive as 3d if it had another name.


if we called shoes bintires they would still go one our feet.
2d=x+y 3d=2D+z :|
Quote from: Super Mario Galaxy on November 23, 2007, 04:05:22 PM
First dimension is a point. We would not physically be able to se what it's like in that point, but I think of it like being stuck in a very small box, so you can't move at all.


Boxes are three dimensional figures and according to that video the first dimension is a single line

LOSE
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: Super Mario Galaxy on November 23, 2007, 04:06:47 PM
The amount of metaphors in this thread is getting as ridiculous as a camel walking upside down on a 4th dimension.
That's a simile. :|

And some camels do live in Australia.
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Selkie on November 23, 2007, 04:10:00 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 04:08:36 PM
Boxes are three dimensional figures and according to that video the first dimension is a single line

LOSE


IT WAS A CRAPPY EXAMPLE GOD DAMMIT

Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Selkie on November 23, 2007, 04:10:29 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 04:09:31 PM
That's a simile. :|

And some camels do live in Australia.


K, this thread is now officially about 3rd grade grammar.
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Daddy on November 23, 2007, 04:16:21 PM
Quote from: Super Mario Galaxy on November 23, 2007, 04:10:29 PM
K, this thread is now officially about 3rd grade grammar.
Nice hyperbole.

Metaphors and similes aren't discussed in third grade.
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Selkie on November 23, 2007, 04:17:05 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 04:16:21 PM
Nice hyperbole.

Metaphors and similes aren't discussed in third grade.


when are they discussed?

Possibly 4th?
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 04:18:00 PM
Quote from: Super Mario Galaxy on November 23, 2007, 04:17:05 PM
when are they discussed?

Possibly 4th?
Second grade for me.
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 23, 2007, 04:18:08 PM
Quote from: Super Mario Galaxy on November 23, 2007, 04:17:05 PM
when are they discussed?

Possibly 4th?
They tought them to me in 8th. ness;
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2007, 04:27:01 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 04:16:21 PM
Nice hyperbole.

Metaphors and similes aren't discussed in third grade.
7th for me
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: IPWNEDURMOM on November 23, 2007, 05:18:07 PM
WTF are metaphors and similes lololololololol  edumacate;
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: guff on November 23, 2007, 05:19:46 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 23, 2007, 03:59:39 PM
their name.

they are called the first, second, and third dimension.

sure they would still be the same if they were called the red, pink, and maroon dimensions.
what are they
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Selkie on November 23, 2007, 05:24:28 PM
Quote from: IPWNEDURMOM on November 23, 2007, 05:18:07 PM
WTF are metaphors and similes lololololololol  edumacate;


Metaphor: Your butt is a mountain

Simile: Your butt is like a mountain
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 05:25:19 PM
Quote from: Super Mario Galaxy on November 23, 2007, 05:24:28 PM
Metaphor: Your butt is a mountain

Simile: Your butt is like a mountain
I am a mountain. :|
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Samus Aran on November 23, 2007, 05:28:11 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 05:25:19 PM
I am a mountain. :|


a mountain of gooey gumdrop goodness :|
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: Selkie on November 23, 2007, 05:28:54 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 23, 2007, 05:25:19 PM
I am a mountain. :|


With a massive oak tree
Title: Re: outerspace
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 23, 2007, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: Speedykaz on November 23, 2007, 05:28:11 PM
a mountain of gooey gumdrop goodness :|
But only in a slice of the fifth dimension. :|