Say you're downloading a movie to your Hard Drive at that speed, Hard Drives can't write that fast anyway, so what would be the purpose?
Just a random thought I had in computer networking today, not much else in it.
Your hard drive can't, but I'm sure it's useful for businesses or something.
Quote from: Lawlz on October 23, 2007, 02:52:31 PM
Your hard drive can't, but I'm sure it's useful for businesses or something.
Probably writing to maybe 3 or 4 at once yeah.
Flash memory is the future. Soon there will be no more harddrives, and we will be using internal flash drives. They are much faster, lack moving parts so they won't break down, and have other benefits.
Quote from: JMV290 on October 23, 2007, 05:05:24 PM
Flash memory is the future. Soon there will be no more harddrives, and we will be using internal flash drives. They are much faster, lack moving parts so they won't break down, and have other benefits.
Flash Cards have slower Write speeds :(
Quote from: JMV290 on October 23, 2007, 05:05:24 PM
Flash memory is the future. Soon there will be no more harddrives, and we will be using internal flash drives. They are much faster, lack moving parts so they won't break down, and have other benefits.
I've had a flash drive short out. They're not perfect either. It's going to be a long time before flash memory can really be considered "perfected" and able to replace hard drives.
It writes it to RAM, then it writes to the hard drive. At least I think thats how it works. psyduck;
I dunno, my friend gets like ridiculous 5mb/s downloads, and I'm stuck with barely reaching 150kb/s. :(
Quote from: Kingoftherings on October 25, 2007, 05:07:51 PM
It writes it to RAM, then it writes to the hard drive. At least I think thats how it works. psyduck;
I dunno, my friend gets like ridiculous 5mb/s downloads, and I'm stuck with barely reaching 150kb/s. :(
AT this rate, we won't have enough RAM to keep up with download speeds..
Or not.
Oh, I just remembered too. 2Gb/s is two Gigabits per second, which comes out to be 250 Megabytes per second, SATA and PCI harddives can handle that.
Quote from: JMV290 on October 25, 2007, 06:31:50 PM
Oh, I just remembered too. 2Gb/s is two Gigabits per second, which comes out to be 250 Megabytes per second, SATA and PCI harddives can handle that.
I didn't say Gb, I said GB, capital B, meaning bytes, not bits.
Quote from: Blaziken Prince on October 26, 2007, 09:39:38 PM
I didn't say Gb, I said GB, capital B, meaning bytes, not bits.
Do you have a link to the article? 16Gb/s is something that I've never heard of.
Quote from: Blaziken Prince on October 26, 2007, 09:39:38 PM
I didn't say Gb, I said GB, capital B, meaning bytes, not bits.
It would be GiB for Gigabit.
Quote from: JMV290 on October 25, 2007, 06:31:50 PM
Oh, I just remembered too. 2Gb/s is two Gigabits per second, which comes out to be 250 Megabytes per second, SATA and PCI harddives can handle that.
PCI is only like 33mb/s. psyduck;
You're worrying about this right now? Shut up and just enjoy your current connection. psyduck;
Quote from: Kingoftherings on October 27, 2007, 05:22:23 PM
It would be GiB for Gigabit.
PCI is only like 33mb/s. psyduck;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_Component_Interconnect
33.33 MHz clock with synchronous transfers
peak transfer rate of 133 MB per second for 32-bit bus width (33.33 MHz ? 32 bits ? 8 bits/byte = 133 MB/s)
peak transfer rate of 266 MB/s for 64-bit bus width
Later versions of PCI allow (and in the latest versions require) 3.3V slots (keyed differently) on motherboards and allow for cards that are either double keyed for both voltages or even 3.3V only.
PCI 2.2 allows for 66 MHz signalling (requires 3.3 volt signalling) (peak transfer rate of 533 MB/s)
Quote from: JMV290 on October 28, 2007, 11:59:54 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_Component_Interconnect
33.33 MHz clock with synchronous transfers
peak transfer rate of 133 MB per second for 32-bit bus width (33.33 MHz ? 32 bits ? 8 bits/byte = 133 MB/s)
peak transfer rate of 266 MB/s for 64-bit bus width
Later versions of PCI allow (and in the latest versions require) 3.3V slots (keyed differently) on motherboards and allow for cards that are either double keyed for both voltages or even 3.3V only.
PCI 2.2 allows for 66 MHz signalling (requires 3.3 volt signalling) (peak transfer rate of 533 MB/s)
Oh yeah, I was thinking MHz. :P
Quote from: Kingoftherings on October 27, 2007, 05:22:23 PM
It would be GiB for Gigabit.
GB = GigaByte
GiB = Giga binary byte (pronounced Gibibyte)
Gb = Gigabit
Quote from: JMV290 on October 25, 2007, 06:31:50 PM
2Gb/s is two Gigabits per second...
...which comes out to be 250 Megabytes per second, SATA and PCI harddives can handle that.
but he said 2GB so it's irrelevant
connections am not equal to hard drives psyduck;
also what the christ is a pci harddrive
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2007, 12:50:05 PM
but he said 2GB so it's irrelevant
connections am not equal to hard drives psyduck;
also what the christ is a pci harddrive
Well, a 2GB/s connection is 16Gb/s, which is faster than anything available right now, so I figured he made a typo. Also, data transfer speed is usually in *bits per second
Also where did I say they were. I was talking about writing data to harddrives. He said
QuoteHard Drives can't write that fast anyway, so what would be the purpose?
So i told him the speed that harddrives can use.
also i misworded it i meant harddives connected via pci.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/06/17/a_hard_disk_in_a_pci_slot/
Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 03:03:26 PM
Well, a 2GB/s connection is 16Gb/s, which is faster than anything available right now...
yarr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_Carrier#OC-768_.2F_STM-256x)
Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 03:03:26 PM
Also, data transfer speed is usually in *bits per second
sometimes, but most browsers and other agents of download report speed in KB/s
Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 03:03:26 PM
I was talking about writing data to harddrives. He said So i told him the speed that harddrives can use.
Data transfer rates are not related to write speeds. psyduck;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2007, 03:41:28 PM
yarr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_Carrier#OC-768_.2F_STM-256x)
cool but can you find an ISP that currently uses those speeds?
Quotesometimes, but most browsers and other agents of download report speed in KB/s
But ISPs don't. When you order a high speed internet package you're going to see 15Mb/s not 1.86MB/s
Data transfer rates are not related to write speeds. psyduck;
[/quote]cool i didnt say they were. Read his fucking post. He just said that Hard Drives can't write that fast. I said they can. Stop being an idiot.
Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 04:03:58 PM
cool but can you find an ISP that currently uses those speeds?
But ISPs don't. When you order a high speed internet package you're going to see 15Mb/s not 1.86MB/s
cool i didnt say they were. Read his fucking post. He just said that Hard Drives can't write that fast. I said they can. Stop being an idiot.
who said anything about an isp
see above; isps are not the only people who transfer data
And he's right; hard drives can't write that fast. The connection to the hard drive can transmit data at that rate. These are very different things. You could have a gigabit ethernet connection to your DSL modem, but that's not going to make the 768 or 512 etc. connection perform at that speed.
oh and even a fucking raptor's max speed is below 120MB/s (http://anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2922&p=4)
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2007, 04:18:12 PM
who said anything about an isp
see above; isps are not the only people who transfer data
And he's right; hard drives can't write that fast. The connection to the hard drive can transmit data at that rate. These are very different things. You could have a gigabit ethernet connection to your DSL modem, but that's not going to make the 768 or 512 etc. connection perform at that speed.
oh and even a fucking raptor's max speed is below 120MB/s (http://anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2922&p=4)
You're not thinking in the same manner Blaziken was thinking in.
Unless he was talking about a LAN, which I doubt--He would be talking about an ISP if he's downloading movies.
Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 04:54:22 PM
You're not thinking in the same manner Blaziken was thinking in.
Unless he was talking about a LAN, which I doubt--He would be talking about an ISP if he's downloading movies.
Yes I was, and main point still stands.
Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 04:54:22 PM
You're not thinking in the same manner Blaziken was thinking in.
Unless he was talking about a LAN, which I doubt--He would be talking about an ISP if he's downloading movies.
Good.
You weren't talking about an ISP. You said:
Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 03:03:26 PM
...16Gb/s...is faster than anything available right now...
italics added for emphasis
ps what happened to the talk about the hard drive write speeds and the me being stupid
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2007, 05:45:13 PM
Good.
You weren't talking about an ISP. You said:italics added for emphasis
uhm I mean available for an ISP. of course there are much faster methods available elsewhere.
Quote
ps what happened to the talk about the hard drive write speeds
im still downloading it/ i guess u wuz right
Quotethe me being stupid
still here
No one uses gigabits JMV... never ever really heard someone say that.
2GB/s is used in businesses and places that have more than one computer because all those computers share the same internet connection so they take only a fraction of the 2GBs a second.
Quote from: reefer on November 02, 2007, 03:09:48 PM
No one uses gigabits JMV... never ever really heard someone say that.
2GB/s is used in businesses and places that have more than one computer because all those computers share the same internet connection so they take only a fraction of the 2GBs a second.
http://www22.verizon.com/content/consumerfios/packages+and+prices/packages+and+prices.htm
http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=Connection118073
56k is 56 kilobits per second
I don't think I've seen any ISP advertise their speeds in bytes per second, only bits.
Quote from: JMV290 on November 02, 2007, 03:16:00 PM
http://www22.verizon.com/content/consumerfios/packages+and+prices/packages+and+prices.htm
http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=Connection118073
56k is 56 kilobits per second
I don't think I've seen any ISP advertise their speeds in bytes per second, only bits.
Hmm, thats silly. Guess the number looks bigger
Quote from: reefer on November 02, 2007, 03:18:15 PM
Hmm, thats silly. Guess the number looks bigger
Yes, it does. I'm not sure if that's why they do it.
Quote from: JMV290 on November 02, 2007, 03:21:59 PM
Yes, it does. I'm not sure if that's why they do it.
It's mainly to advertise to stupid people that think its fast.
Quote from: Blaziken Prince on November 02, 2007, 10:02:00 PM
It's mainly to advertise to stupid people that think its fast.
I didn't say "I don't know why they do it", I know that misleading people may be why they do it, but there is probably more to it than trying to mislead people.
Quote from: JMV290 on November 02, 2007, 10:44:25 PM
I didn't say "I don't know why they do it", I know that misleading people may be why they do it, but there is probably more to it than trying to mislead people.
I also read that Kb is easier to work with than with KB, you don't get as many numbers after the Decimal when converting.