He died on May 4, 2007. I don't know what to do. I want to cry but I can't. FUCK Why did he have to die?
Last night around 9:30 one of my good friends got into a major car crash.
(http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/4247/52619712fb4.jpg)
That is what happened to his car. They had to cut the roof off to get him out. His brother broke two ribs.
Zach is in critical condition. He doesn't deserve this. He has underwent 2 surgeries and has been transfered to Boston Hospital. He can't even breathe on his own. It's really horrible. He's one of the coolest kids I know. If you needed a ride home, he'd give you one. He'd give out discounts at his cousin's restaurant. He doesn't drink or smoke like a lot of the other kids. I am really hoping he pulls through. He's a great friend. It is so close to graduation too.
Mods, please leave this in this board. I don't want people making jokes about it.
Uh, JMV, I doubt anyone would make jokes if you did put in GD. Plus, we'd probably ban the morons who would attempt to crack a joke at this. Was the reason for the crash given?
Quote from: Andrew1911 on May 03, 2007, 02:15:27 PM
Uh, JMV, I doubt anyone would make jokes if you did put in GD. Plus, we'd probably ban the morons who would attempt to crack a joke at this. Was the reason for the crash given?
The Police are still investigating. I heard(some of which came from his brother) that his brakes locked up(No ABS) and he lost control of the car.
A few other people, including the news paper mentioned a Black Sedan that caused him to crash.
I think it cut him off so he stomped on the brakes and spun out. I'm not entirely sure though. That's what his brother and a few others said.
Quote from: JMV290 on May 03, 2007, 02:19:45 PM
Quote from: Andrew1911 on May 03, 2007, 02:15:27 PM
Uh, JMV, I doubt anyone would make jokes if you did put in GD. Plus, we'd probably ban the morons who would attempt to crack a joke at this. Was the reason for the crash given?
The Police are still investigating. I heard(some of which came from his brother) that his brakes locked up(No ABS) and he lost control of the car.
A few other people, including the news paper mentioned a Black Sedan that caused him to crash.
I think it cut him off so he stomped on the brakes and spun out. I'm not entirely sure though. That's what his brother and a few others said.
Did they find the black Sedan? They can charge the driver for a crime if that's true. Also, did they know there was no ABS?
Quote from: Andrew1911 on May 03, 2007, 02:21:37 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on May 03, 2007, 02:19:45 PM
Quote from: Andrew1911 on May 03, 2007, 02:15:27 PM
Uh, JMV, I doubt anyone would make jokes if you did put in GD. Plus, we'd probably ban the morons who would attempt to crack a joke at this. Was the reason for the crash given?
The Police are still investigating. I heard(some of which came from his brother) that his brakes locked up(No ABS) and he lost control of the car.
A few other people, including the news paper mentioned a Black Sedan that caused him to crash.
I think it cut him off so he stomped on the brakes and spun out. I'm not entirely sure though. That's what his brother and a few others said.
Did they find the black Sedan? They can charge the driver for a crime if that's true. Also, did they know there was no ABS?
I don't think so, hopefully they find the driver.
I'm not sure if they knew about the lack of ABS.
Quote from: Pennywise on May 03, 2007, 02:23:41 PM
Rough, what injuries did he sustain?
I'm not sure. All I know is that he has already underwent 2 operations, lost bunch of teeth, is hooked up to a respirator, and had to have his skull drilled or something(to relieve pressure on his brain).
That looks bad :(
sorry about your friend. I hope he pulls through.
Quote from: JMV290 on May 03, 2007, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Andrew1911 on May 03, 2007, 02:21:37 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on May 03, 2007, 02:19:45 PM
Quote from: Andrew1911 on May 03, 2007, 02:15:27 PM
Uh, JMV, I doubt anyone would make jokes if you did put in GD. Plus, we'd probably ban the morons who would attempt to crack a joke at this. Was the reason for the crash given?
The Police are still investigating. I heard(some of which came from his brother) that his brakes locked up(No ABS) and he lost control of the car.
A few other people, including the news paper mentioned a Black Sedan that caused him to crash.
I think it cut him off so he stomped on the brakes and spun out. I'm not entirely sure though. That's what his brother and a few others said.
Did they find the black Sedan? They can charge the driver for a crime if that's true. Also, did they know there was no ABS?
I don't think so, hopefully they find the driver.
I'm not sure if they knew about the lack of ABS.
If they didn't know about the ABS, they can sue the company who made the car if they weren't informed or at the very least, have them pay your friend's hospital bills.
JMV290, terrible news indeed.
I had a friend who died in a car wreck similar to this situation. It's not fun for friends, nor the family. I'm sure your friend will be fine. :)
I'm very sorry. I will keep your friend, his family, and you in my thoughts.
It's too bad, really. Accidents happen just like that. No one's life is promised.
If you need support, you can always talk to me. :)
Quote from: ClassicTyler on May 03, 2007, 03:11:03 PM
JMV290, terrible news indeed.
I had a friend who died in a car wreck similar to this situation. It's not fun for friends, nor the family. I'm sure your friend will be fine. :)
I'm very sorry. I will keep your friend, his family, and you in my thoughts.
It's too bad, really. Accidents happen just like that. No one's life is promised.
If you need support, you can always talk to me. :)
Thanks. I just realized how bad it must have been for his brother.
His brother was conscious while Zach wasn't. Andrew must have been scared shitless when Zach didn't answer him after they crashed.
Ouch. But yeah, something similar happened to me when the brakes locked up on a fourwheeler. We were going like 60 mph (like 4 of us on it... stupid idea) and then when the kid driving was turning he switched gears, which locked it into going right and the brakes were locked up too. I saw what was going on before everyone else and I jumped off and just got a few bruises. The rest of them drove into a barbwire fence... But yeah, one had a broken arm and about 200 stitches, the other ones just had like 10-15 stitches and cuts each.
Anyways, that really sucks. I hope he gets through it..
Wow, thats a bad looking accident psyduck;
My dad got in a motorcycle accident in the mountains on what our insurance company called "dead man's curve", he's okay now but it was horrible going to the hospital. He looked so horrible
I hope he gets better
Quote from: Andrew1911 on May 03, 2007, 02:21:37 PM
Did they find the black Sedan? They can charge the driver for a crime if that's true. Also, did they know there was no ABS?
Not having ABS is illegal? Wow
Quote from: Reaper on May 03, 2007, 05:09:02 PM
Quote from: Andrew1911 on May 03, 2007, 02:21:37 PM
Did they find the black Sedan? They can charge the driver for a crime if that's true. Also, did they know there was no ABS?
Not having ABS is illegal? Wow
No, Andrew means the driver of the black sedan could be charged. His actions caused a crash--and he fled the scene
As for ABS, no it's not illegal to not have it.
Quote from: JMV290 on May 03, 2007, 05:10:26 PM
Quote from: Reaper on May 03, 2007, 05:09:02 PM
Quote from: Andrew1911 on May 03, 2007, 02:21:37 PM
Did they find the black Sedan? They can charge the driver for a crime if that's true. Also, did they know there was no ABS?
Not having ABS is illegal? Wow
No, Andrew means the driver of the black sedan could be charged. His actions caused a crash--and he fled the scene
As for ABS, no it's not illegal to not have it.
He fled the scene? What an asshole!
I came upon an accident a while ago where a woman did a 180 degree turn and a guy was coming around the turn too and hit her and did a HUGE amount of damage. He stayed there and she ended up dying on the scene of the accident.
It was so horrible. Thank Jesus your friend is alive and in the hospital
I feel sorry for you. I have no clue how you feel, because thank God, I've never experience a loved one in a car crash.
I hope they pull through. It's extremely sad to see something like this, especially right before something like graduation or college.
A friend I knew lost a leg walking home... The van like drove ONTO the sidewalk. He was like pushed into a fence. Both legs were injured and only one could be saved. He's fine now, but that really sucks..
He's dead. :(
JMV, I am very sorry for the tragedy.
Just think, he won't have to deal with trivial matters anymore.
It'll all be okay.
:(
Sorry man.
What the heck?
Man thats horrible. I hear of people drunk driving and dying, but when someone who was completely sober and didn't even drink or smoke in the first place dies because someone hit them AND fled the scene. That person should face huge charges.
Quote from: Reaper on May 04, 2007, 09:03:34 PM
What the heck?
Man thats horrible. I hear of people drunk driving and dying, but when someone who was completely sober and didn't even drink or smoke in the first place dies because someone hit them AND fled the scene. That person should face huge charges.
Yeah, Zach never drank or smoked.
He was just coming back from McDonalds with his brother.
I can't believe it happened. Him of all people. I'll never forget him.
Wow, that's rough. A few years back, my parents were in a huge car crash and they both spent the majority of 2001 in a hospital. I was afraid they were going to die. Anyway, yesterday, I had a few people pray for your friend, JMV, and, like Tyler said, now he won't have to deal with all the crap on earth.
But, like Reaper said, when someone causes an accident, and flees the scene, he should face huge charges. That guy's a dickweed.
Sorry to hear that. My senior calss is getting R.I.P Ericka on all of our senior shirts that we get when we gradute. I know how you feel. As I told you already, I lost a fellow senior this year too.
i just can't imagine how his brother feels. I wouldn't know what to do if my brother died. (his brother survived, right?)
I'm real sorry about Zach. I hope they get that bastard that fled away.
Just remember the good times you had with him, I suppose.
The guy who caused them to crash turned himself in.
He found out that Zach died and went to the police.
Quote from: Captain Planet on May 05, 2007, 08:30:40 AM
Sorry to hear that. My senior calss is getting R.I.P Ericka on all of our senior shirts that we get when we gradute. I know how you feel. As I told you already, I lost a fellow senior this year too.
i just can't imagine how his brother feels. I wouldn't know what to do if my brother died. (his brother survived, right?)
Today there was a meeting at school. His brother was there. He was doing pretty good, especially for some one who just lost his brother.
I'm so sorry. I know what it's like to lose someone close to you... I was 14 when my brother died. :(
Quote from: JMV290 on May 05, 2007, 11:26:59 AM
The guy who caused them to crash turned himself in.
He found out that Zach died and went to the police.
Well that's good. It's nice to see that his conscience got to him.
I'm really sorry for your loss, man. I've avoided posting in this thread until now because I'm not good at helping people with these sorts of things. I just never know what to say.
Quote from: JMV290 on May 05, 2007, 11:26:59 AM
The guy who caused them to crash turned himself in.
He found out that Zach died and went to the police.
As least the dickweed did THAT much.
I wonder whats going through the guys head that fled the scene, he must feel terrible for what happened. I know if I got in an accident and it was my fault and someone did die because of me, I would feel so fucking terrible. Especially if I fled the scene, which I wouldn't do because I would be so worried about the other person.
He must hate his life now
Quote from: Reaper on May 05, 2007, 04:13:08 PM
I wonder whats going through the guys head that fled the scene, he must feel terrible for what happened. I know if I got in an accident and it was my fault and someone did die because of me, I would feel so fucking terrible. Especially if I fled the scene, which I wouldn't do because I would be so worried about the other person.
He must hate his life now
He probably does. Andrew said he wants the guy to come to Zach's wake to see the effect of what he did.
Quote from: JMV290 on May 05, 2007, 04:13:58 PM
Quote from: Reaper on May 05, 2007, 04:13:08 PM
I wonder whats going through the guys head that fled the scene, he must feel terrible for what happened. I know if I got in an accident and it was my fault and someone did die because of me, I would feel so fucking terrible. Especially if I fled the scene, which I wouldn't do because I would be so worried about the other person.
He must hate his life now
He probably does. Andrew said he wants the guy to come to Zach's wake to see the effect of what he did.
Wow, that would make that guy feel terrible. I know my dad had a brother die when he was 15 and his brother was 17. He sounds kinda like Zach because he literary started my dad's company.
I never had something like this happen to me so I'll just stop talking about it
Very sorry to hear that he passed though
Thanks. It's gonna take time to adjust. I woke up today and the first thought in my head was "Fuck, Zach's dead".
It's horrible. He is one of the reasons I decided not to attempt suicide in 7th grade. He's a great friend.
I want to say something assuring, but really I can't.
I want to say everything will get better, but you'll always feel the effects of it. I feel really sorry for you and your friend's family on this loss.
I can only hope that JMV was at the hospital when Zach died, not posting on Power On.
May Zach's family find happiness.
I was on AIM waiting for an update. I couldn't have been at the hospital. They were discussing taking him off life support and that was a family only thing.
Quote from: JMV290 on May 07, 2007, 02:35:57 PM
I was on AIM waiting for an update. I couldn't have been at the hospital. They were discussing taking him off life support and that was a family only thing.
Oh, okay. That's understandable.
His wake is tomorrow. I'm not sure if I'll be able to handle it.
The last few days I was able to deal with it because I didn't have to think about him actually being dead.
Tomorrow he will be there, just lying in an open casket. It's going to be one of the hardest things I've ever done.
Shit. That's tough. I feel for you man, It's a good thing that Assfuck driver turned himself in though.
I'm so sorry, JMV. Wow, I know how it feels to lose a family member, but a best friend? I mean, I know that I wouldn't be able to handle it if my friend died. I'm so, so sorry. If there's anything you need, or you just need someone to talk to, feel free to drop me a PM. I'd love to help you get through this.
I hope that that motherfucker that crashed into him goes to jail, for a long time...
Just remember all the good times that you had with him. That always helps. flower;
Well I had the date of the wake wrong. It's tomorrow. It is still going to be hard to do.
I have a question for anyone. What do I do when everyone else is praying? Do I go along with it?
Quote from: JMV290 on May 08, 2007, 06:45:34 PM
Well I had the date of the wake wrong. It's tomorrow. It is still going to be hard to do.
I have a question for anyone. What do I do when everyone else is praying? Do I go along with it?
Maybe the whole thing will make you actually want to pray.
If not, just go along with it
Quote from: JMV290 on May 08, 2007, 06:45:34 PM
Well I had the date of the wake wrong. It's tomorrow. It is still going to be hard to do.
I have a question for anyone. What do I do when everyone else is praying? Do I go along with it?
If you pray to a deity, you're not atheist. If you believe in an afterlife, simply wish him the best. If not, well, the good ol' "shit happens" will do.
Don't just "go along" with everyone because you don't want to be perceived as a "dick."
That's terrible. dawkins;
He's in a better place now. dawkins;
I hate crashes. They happen all the time, like upside down, crashes, etc. [shadow=red,left]Never been in one, yay.[/shadow] Nothing to serous, thankfully. The only serous things that happen in area I live in (I live in a rural area, the town I live close to school closed years ago. The place I go to school in is small to, so the elementry school and high school are in the same building) are people around 19 coming out of a manhole on the playground. holding beer and such.
Goodbye. He must have been great.
dawkins;
Quote from: MILADMAAAN on May 03, 2007, 04:51:18 PM
Ouch. But yeah, something similar happened to me when the brakes locked up on a fourwheeler. We were going like 60 mph (like 4 of us on it... stupid idea) and then when the kid driving was turning he switched gears, which locked it into going right and the brakes were locked up too. I saw what was going on before everyone else and I jumped off and just got a few bruises. The rest of them drove into a barbwire fence... But yeah, one had a broken arm and about 200 stitches, the other ones just had like 10-15 stitches and cuts each.
Anyways, that really sucks. I hope he gets through it..
I took the MN DNR ATV Safty Course. You should find something like it.
Quote from: JMV290 on May 08, 2007, 06:45:34 PM
Well I had the date of the wake wrong. It's tomorrow. It is still going to be hard to do.
I have a question for anyone. What do I do when everyone else is praying? Do I go along with it?
Prey.
I'm not usually very good at cheering people up, but I'll try.
I'm truly sorry, JMV. The fact that it was a hit-and-run accident makes it even worse, but I guarantee that the driver will be caught. I just hope your friend is in a better place now. I'm so very sorry. D=
I'm very sorry, JMV.:(
This is woah. There are a lot of death stories here. Normally, you don't find stuff like this one a forum.
Also, I noticed a great deal of time passing between the posts.
Whoa... That's sad... Well atleast he's in a better place...
I'm so sorry man. My friend and his family died in a car accident two years ago when they were hit by a semi and they burnt to death, so I know how it is. But still I'm so sorry man.
Man, I have nothing to say but sorry.
They're are a lot of bad people in this world that drink and smoke and intentionally harm others.
This guy seems like he was just an awesome person, to not drink or smoke. I literaly almost cried when I found out he was dead.
It's people like him that need to be known about, rather than celebrities and sports and such.
The media is so corrupt now.
i'm so sorry man...