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Title: PIANO THrz'æ'd.
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 27, 2022, 07:22:27 AM
hi boyah

i have a ~$500 budget for a digital piano

(i absolutely despise the term """keyboard""" because of the ambiguity)

Anyone have any experience? Anyone have any recommendations? :music_and_others_2_9940_3732_
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on September 27, 2022, 09:16:17 AM
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR

as long as it has at least 5 octaves and is velocity sensitive, it'll probably fit your needs. the thing about instruments is that if you plan on practicing, you need to be sure it's an instrument you enjoy playing. go to a music store and try some out
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 27, 2022, 01:51:44 PM
Quote from: Mando Pandango on September 27, 2022, 09:16:17 AMWHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR

idklol the best possible high-quality beginner-friendly one with cool synth features within like okay maybe ~$600 >.<

Quote from: Mando Pandango on September 27, 2022, 09:16:17 AMvelocity sensitive

w-what does this mean

Like, the force of the keystrike? befuddlement

Quote from: Mando Pandango on September 27, 2022, 09:16:17 AMgo to a music store and try some out

oooooohhh this is a brilliant idea

i was just gonna hit up djeff bezos lol
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on September 27, 2022, 01:55:17 PM
Velocity sensitive means you can play loud/soft by hitting the keys harder/softer that's all
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 27, 2022, 01:59:06 PM
oh yes

oh yes oh yes it's not a piano without sound modulation

that's a definite must have lol
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: strongbad on September 27, 2022, 02:49:55 PM
What Pepsi said sounds good but also bonus points for midi so you can use as a synth controller if you so desire
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 27, 2022, 03:49:41 PM
Quote from: strongbad on September 27, 2022, 02:49:55 PMWhat Pepsi said sounds good but also bonus points for midi so you can use as a synth controller if you so desire

What does this mean? How does this work? befuddlement

i basically want all the useful features lol i don't want to feel like i need to buy another within two years
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on September 27, 2022, 05:24:13 PM
A midi output will let you use it as a controller for software instruments, synthesizers, etc.
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on September 27, 2022, 05:40:14 PM
That means it'll be the keyboard and you'll hook it up to another thing that makes the sounds
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 28, 2022, 01:24:03 AM
a final question before i visit the musical instrument emporium

Digital piano owners, why'd you pick your model over all the others? befuddlement

oh and also is $500-$600 a reasonable budget
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 30, 2022, 01:24:15 AM
also lol, even digital piano doesn't avoid the ambiguity since technically every piano ever is digital

these should really be called ePianos, as in

"i am a rising ePianist"
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: ikanaide on October 01, 2022, 07:31:36 AM
i bought a casio recently and it's ok. the tone sounded a bit weird to me at first but i got more or less used to it. the sustain wasn't very good i actually wouldn't recommend it but it's adequate for my level of practice and i was too lazy to return it cuz it's a big heavy thing. it was out of that or yamaha p45 i wish i tried the yamaha now in retrospect
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on October 01, 2022, 08:22:39 AM
Tec do you have a teacher? Any kind of a learning plan?
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 05, 2022, 10:07:43 AM
Quote from: Mando Pandango on September 27, 2022, 09:16:17 AMgo to a music store

Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on September 28, 2022, 01:24:03 AMa final question before i visit the musical instrument emporium

oh btw i momentarily visited Guitard Centre™ :banjorave222dy4:

Gitaroo Man recommended the ~$550 yamaha p. 45 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UJ9LNDK/) (WARNING: BEZOSZON LINK)

but i haven't look into it since then lol god i'm way behind on this project myface;

My Next Step:

Quote from: Mando Pandango on September 27, 2022, 09:16:17 AMand try some out
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 05, 2022, 09:31:53 PM
Quote from: Mando Pandango on October 01, 2022, 08:22:39 AMTec do you have a teacher? Any kind of a learning plan?

no LOL

i basically just want to be able to do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIa3QrbEZg4

Can't be that hard, right? befuddlement

i basically just need a physical algorithm for doing that lol
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on November 05, 2022, 09:37:45 PM
what that man is doing will take a lot of hard work and practice over a long period of time, especially if you want to sound that good

but do not let that deter you
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 05, 2022, 09:38:33 PM
he makes it look so easy tho

like he's having fun, even
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on November 05, 2022, 09:41:27 PM
yeah because he knows the instrument really well
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 05, 2022, 10:09:06 PM
i know there are literally written instructions for playing music but honestly i never really learned how to read that script LOL
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on November 07, 2022, 08:29:06 AM
having a good teacher helps a lot

n_u
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 28, 2022, 04:03:25 AM
GOALS:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfSEj2kGPTE&t=40s

that would be nifty, i feel like
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 28, 2022, 04:04:10 AM
Quote from: Mando Pandango on November 07, 2022, 08:29:06 AMhaving a good teacher helps a lot

n_u

so yeah i bet a teacher would be ridiculously helpful lol
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on November 28, 2022, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 28, 2022, 04:04:10 AM
Quote from: Mando Pandango on November 07, 2022, 08:29:06 AMhaving a good teacher helps a lot

n_u

so yeah i bet a teacher would be ridiculously helpful lol
i could probably get you up to speed tbh. piano is not my main instrument but it's the one i learned on initially and i'm pretty comfortable with it.

Buy this:
https://www.amazon.com/Hanon-Virtuoso-Exercises-Complete-Schirmers/dp/0793525446

And practice those exercises to a metronome, slowly speeding up as you get comfortable with them. Only take on a couple at a time.

Beyond that, learn the proper fingerings for all the major and minor scales, which you should just be able to look up. Again, this will take time. Start with C major, then G and F major. As you get comfortable with these, move onto the others, adding one sharp or flat at a time to the scale that you're learning. By this I mean: C major is all white keys. G major is 1 sharp and F major is 1 flat. Then 2 sharps is D major, 2 flats is B-flat major, etc. It's good to know the theoretical reasoning behind this but it's more important at first just to be able to play it and build your muscle memory. That's the point of practice: building muscle memory.

And of course all of this can get VERY BORING because it's just exercises, so be sure to try learning simple pieces you like as well!

All of this is probably what you would do in lessons at first.
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on November 28, 2022, 12:40:43 PM
Sorry, I keep realizing that I take the ability to read music COMPLETELY for granted.

you're gonna want to learn to read music too. piano is probably the easiest instrument to do this with.

ok good luck
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 28, 2022, 05:34:38 PM
Thank you kindly Popsi. I'll be placing an order shortly. tomatoes;

I suspect it's a bit like studying hieroglyphs. befuddlement
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 29, 2022, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 28, 2022, 04:03:25 AMGOALS:

[/list]

[li]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2rBjKX2Gbs[/li]

[li]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Y7OMWxwf0[/li]
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Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on November 29, 2022, 11:59:47 PM
Quote from: Mando Pandango on November 28, 2022, 10:21:21 AMBeyond that, learn the proper fingerings for all the major and minor scales, which you should just be able to look up.

this sounds important

god i wish i'd taken mюsic theory lol

Quote from: Mando Pandango on November 28, 2022, 10:21:21 AMIt's good to know the theoretical reasoning behind this
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 01, 2022, 10:13:40 AM
theory will be much easier to learn if you learn to read music as well
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 08, 2022, 10:49:00 AM
How's it goin teck
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 26, 2022, 07:54:27 AM
Quote from: Mando Pandango on December 08, 2022, 10:49:00 AMHow's it goin teck

I've discovered that I'm absolutely fascinated by out-of-tune pianos. befuddlement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuSflLxxy8c

How confoundingly curious. confuseddood;
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 26, 2022, 04:32:42 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 26, 2022, 07:54:27 AM
Quote from: Mando Pandango on December 08, 2022, 10:49:00 AMHow's it goin teck

I've discovered that I'm absolutely fascinated by out-of-tune pianos. befuddlement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuSflLxxy8c

How confoundingly curious. confuseddood;

and also these insane automata

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07krQ661fok

ne@ befuddlement
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 26, 2022, 04:34:20 PM
Anyway, I have made my decision. I went a tad over budget. smth;
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 26, 2022, 04:48:19 PM
the idea of being "in tune" is a social construct

in fact the 12-tone equal temperament tuning system we now use has only been around for about as long as recorded music. before that, depending on how a piano was tuned, a piece would sound like a different flavor of "out of tune" depending on what key it was in

and i think it's a shame we ever lost that
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 26, 2022, 05:04:27 PM
Quote from: Mando Pandango on December 26, 2022, 04:48:19 PMthe idea of being "in tune" is a social construct

This was intenssely satisfying to read. xiapproves;

Quote from: Mando Pandango on December 26, 2022, 04:48:19 PMand i think it's a shame we ever lost that

Likewise.
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 26, 2022, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 29, 2022, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 28, 2022, 04:03:25 AMGOALS:

Quote from: Mando Pandango on December 26, 2022, 04:48:19 PMand i think it's a shame we ever lost that

Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 27, 2022, 07:03:46 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 26, 2022, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 29, 2022, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 28, 2022, 04:03:25 AMGOALS:

 myface;
https://youtu.be/dhD37lKeH2o?t=67
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 27, 2022, 07:08:53 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 27, 2022, 07:03:46 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 26, 2022, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 29, 2022, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 28, 2022, 04:03:25 AMGOALS:

 myface;
https://youtu.be/dhD37lKeH2o?t=67
https://youtu.be/WoLD_ncMacA?t=17 bassir;
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 27, 2022, 07:11:56 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 27, 2022, 07:08:53 AMhttps://youtu.be/WoLD_ncMacA?t=17 bassir;
lol what the hell is this video
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 27, 2022, 07:21:30 AM
ifeelbetter;
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 28, 2022, 05:23:30 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 27, 2022, 07:08:53 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 27, 2022, 07:03:46 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 26, 2022, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 29, 2022, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 28, 2022, 04:03:25 AMGOALS:

 myface;
https://youtu.be/dhD37lKeH2o?t=67
https://youtu.be/WoLD_ncMacA?t=17 bassir;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFpRHhsMRi4

lubdoods;
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 28, 2022, 07:24:02 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 28, 2022, 05:23:30 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 27, 2022, 07:08:53 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 27, 2022, 07:03:46 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 26, 2022, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 29, 2022, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 28, 2022, 04:03:25 AMGOALS:

 myface;
https://youtu.be/dhD37lKeH2o?t=67
https://youtu.be/WoLD_ncMacA?t=17 bassir;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFpRHhsMRi4

lubdoods;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBhFqIVWEL8

n_n

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxrHP8pup4s

okay cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b17uM4Towqs

akudood;
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 28, 2022, 07:31:04 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 28, 2022, 07:24:02 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 28, 2022, 05:23:30 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 27, 2022, 07:08:53 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 27, 2022, 07:03:46 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 26, 2022, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 29, 2022, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 28, 2022, 04:03:25 AMGOALS:

 myface;
https://youtu.be/dhD37lKeH2o?t=67
https://youtu.be/WoLD_ncMacA?t=17 bassir;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFpRHhsMRi4

lubdoods;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBhFqIVWEL8

n_n

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxrHP8pup4s

okay cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b17uM4Towqs

akudood;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VNIDsEqtmE

Hmmmmmmm. befuddlement
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 28, 2022, 07:55:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbA8CAacNZ4

.........Interesting. I LOL'd, so to speak. huhdoodame;

I'm having tremendous difficulty articulating why. befuddlemen't;

Why is this so amusing? confuseddood;
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 28, 2022, 04:34:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=827jmswqnEA

Tutorial phase initalised.
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 04, 2023, 06:15:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipcm-Ub22UY

Quite, a swell character this bloke. I find that one can always count on the Aus*alians being rather chill(, if you will).
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 04, 2023, 08:10:47 PM
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09TQ3YBRB/ref=twister_B0B8FSCM9L

do it y/n
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 04, 2023, 09:19:19 PM
https://youtu.be/yXeL-ZABD2k?t=72

could you imagine being this cool :'(
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on February 04, 2023, 11:16:00 PM
HOW IS LEARNING PIANO GOING
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 08, 2023, 12:56:22 PM
Quote from: Mando Pandango on February 04, 2023, 11:16:00 PMHOW IS LEARNING PIANO GOING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGTqwtH3UK0

putindidsaprroves;
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Mando Pandango on February 08, 2023, 12:58:21 PM
yeah that's gonna be hard to learn

you gotta start simple man
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 08, 2023, 12:59:58 PM
smiothidic*; :emop:
Title: Re: RECOMMEND ME A PIANO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 08, 2023, 08:05:23 PM
Quote from: Mando Pandango on November 28, 2022, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on November 28, 2022, 04:04:10 AM
Quote from: Mando Pandango on November 07, 2022, 08:29:06 AMhaving a good teacher helps a lot

n_u

so yeah i bet a teacher would be ridiculously helpful lol
i could probably get you up to speed tbh. piano is not my main instrument but it's the one i learned on initially and i'm pretty comfortable with it.

Buy this:
https://www.amazon.com/Hanon-Virtuoso-Exercises-Complete-Schirmers/dp/0793525446

And practice those exercises to a metronome, slowly speeding up as you get comfortable with them. Only take on a couple at a time.

Beyond that, learn the proper fingerings for all the major and minor scales, which you should just be able to look up. Again, this will take time. Start with C major, then G and F major. As you get comfortable with these, move onto the others, adding one sharp or flat at a time to the scale that you're learning. By this I mean: C major is all white keys. G major is 1 sharp and F major is 1 flat. Then 2 sharps is D major, 2 flats is B-flat major, etc. It's good to know the theoretical reasoning behind this but it's more important at first just to be able to play it and build your muscle memory. That's the point of practice: building muscle memory.

And of course all of this can get VERY BORING because it's just exercises, so be sure to try learning simple pieces you like as well!

All of this is probably what you would do in lessons at first.

Okay. I BOT't-it. :emo:
Title: Re: PIANO THrz'æ'd.
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 09, 2023, 08:24:31 AM
Quote from: Kalahari Inkantation on February 09, 2023, 08:23:43 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZETHlIuklE

:emo:

quite_Simply{ Incred'ib'you'll. >.<
Title: Re: PIANO THrz'æ'd.
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 09, 2023, 08:44:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkP0XYvGBfs

Wow. COol. befuddlement
Title: Re: PIANO THrz'æ'd.
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 09, 2023, 09:06:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUIhted5gEE

cry;