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Title: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Samus Aran on September 04, 2014, 09:53:57 PM
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cMqqNG

I'm still somewhat unsure about a couple things here and there in this, like a couple things I think I could go cheaper on and not sure if I'll end up just using the stock cooling unit in the end but for now I chose not to list one. I can always get one afterward if it seems like I need the extra temperature control.

But ummm either way pls take a look, any comments or suggestions are welcome. I would definitely like to slim down the overall price slightly. This is my first time doing something like this and David helped me a ton and honestly did most of the work lol. Bless you David.

The "type" of user I will be is like, um, not a power user per se but I would like to play some modern games at decent settings and do want to get into things like making videos but I don't need to be running a bunch of other things at the same time I guess lol
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on September 04, 2014, 10:05:55 PM
Have u tried a chromebook
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: ikanaide on September 05, 2014, 02:12:36 AM
dont need the 2 storage drive
dont need OS

$200 cheaper now  hocuspocus;

maybe psu and gpu can be cheaper I am not sure  doodthing;
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Samus Aran on September 05, 2014, 03:36:06 AM
oh no, i most definitely do need both of those storage drives lol

as for the os, well, i want to actually have a genuine livedisc instead of pirating win7. it's not a necessity but yeah idk
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: ikanaide on September 05, 2014, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: ikanaide on September 05, 2014, 02:12:36 AM
maybe psu and gpu can be cheaper I am not sure  doodthing;
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs550m
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pny-video-card-vcggtx750t2xpb
+ no SSD
+ no OS
â-¼ $290
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Samus Aran on September 05, 2014, 12:10:35 PM
i refuse to give up the ssd goowan
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: ikanaide on September 05, 2014, 01:26:34 PM
Quote from: Platinum the Trinity on September 05, 2014, 12:10:35 PM
i refuse to give up the ssd goowan

ok  akudood;

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600m â-¼$80 â-¼50W
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pny-video-card-vcggtx750t2xpb â-¼$35
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003 â-¼$46 â-¼1TB

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-p8h77v
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80623i52500k â-¼$85

+ no OS â-¼$90

â-¼$336
:3
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: silvertone on September 05, 2014, 06:58:22 PM
windows 8 more like windows not so great
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Daddy on September 06, 2014, 10:01:56 AM
Do yourself a favor, spend an extra 10 bucks and buy a 250GB SSD
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E3W1726/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


It has a marginally slower I/O but a larger cache.

also samsung just a slightly different series
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on September 16, 2014, 10:17:43 PM
Do u really need an optical drive?
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Samus Aran on September 16, 2014, 10:59:35 PM
it's mostly just one of those things that'd be kind of nice to have. so no i don't really "need" it but idk
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 16, 2014, 11:07:34 PM
Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on September 16, 2014, 10:17:43 PM
Do u really need an optical drive?


i was wondering this myself, but kaz is a physical media kinda guy

i also question the necessity of buying an ssd now considering the limited (though high, they're guaranteed for something like 24tb) total number of writes, for that reason i would keep nothing but core files on an ssd and not files that are going to be modified constantly (games, music, media and entertainment things basically)

also be wary of sudden power loss (http://www.extremetech.com/computing/169124-the-mysteriously-disappearing-drive-are-power-outages-killing-your-ssds), which decimates ssd performance

and keep in mind that you can't fill them to capacity (http://www.howtogeek.com/165542/why-solid-state-drives-slow-down-as-you-fill-them-up/) and that they gradually slow with use

also reliability differs significantly from brand to brand

of course hdds have their fair share of issues too lol (esp. in that failure is far less predictable and often catastrophic), but they're not really limited to a finite number of writes and of course are much cheaper per gb

anyway this build looks good2me wrench;
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Samus Aran on October 15, 2014, 01:29:38 PM
changed some things

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vLxtNG

$1177, came down almost $200 from first price
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: ME## on November 09, 2014, 01:41:46 PM
will john take pix of kaz building his computer like an excited kid @ christman
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: silvertone on November 11, 2014, 12:10:15 PM
:in a well, shouting: build the damn computer already :shouts echo and makes my ear drums bleed:

Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Samus Aran on November 11, 2014, 12:14:57 PM
lol I was just thinking a few minutes ago about how I still haven't done this
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: ME## on November 11, 2014, 01:08:33 PM


Kaz u need to do it
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Thyme on November 11, 2014, 05:24:00 PM
same goes for david smh
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: bluaki on November 11, 2014, 11:36:17 PM
I just realized this is the same GPU (R9 270X) that I've been planning to buy soon too. I've read good things about its price:performance ratio and its ability to handle most games well at reasonable resolutions.

Here's my full build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ryHrt6
I already have everything but the video card, and I'm not really sure on the particular model but I'll just watch for sales. I've had some of these parts since up to 3 years ago.

The main differences between my build and Kaz's are that I spent a lot more on monitors, he spent more on CPU (i5 vs Pentium), and my build is small (miniITX vs ATX). I'm actually considering getting a higher-end CPU once Intel's Broadwell series is available.

For Kaz's build: do you intend to overclock?
If so, have you looked into how much you can or want to overclock with this build and how much it'll actually matter?
If not, you probably should consider getting a cheaper motherboard (H97 chipset is the same as Z97 except cheaper and without OC) and maybe cheaper CPU.

Some similar parts you might want to consider are:
Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ($93, H97, ATX)
Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H ($87, H97, microATX)
ASUS H97M-E ($95, H97, microATX, only 4 SATA ports)
ASUS H97-PLUS ($100, H97, ATX)
Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ($108, Z97, ATX)
Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H ($108, Z97, microATX)
Intel i5-4430 ($180, 3.0GHz)
Intel i5-4460 ($185, 3.2GHz)
Intel i5-4690 ($210, 3.5GHz)

For your purposes, microATX and ATX motherboards probably are interchangeable; they can both fit in full-size ATX cases and they can work with the same components. The only real difference between them is that microATX has fewer expansion card slots, but I imagine you only care about using one for a video card. MicroATX is often a bit cheaper than the equivalent ATX board, but occasionally can lose some other features like two of the RAM slots or some SATA connectors. The ones I listed all have 4 RAM slots.
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: silvertone on November 12, 2014, 03:07:51 AM
Quote from: bluaki on November 11, 2014, 11:36:17 PM
I just realized this is the same GPU (R9 270X) that I've been planning to buy soon too. I've read good things about its price:performance ratio and its ability to handle most games well at reasonable resolutions.

Here's my full build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ryHrt6
I already have everything but the video card, and I'm not really sure on the particular model but I'll just watch for sales. I've had some of these parts since up to 3 years ago.

The main differences between my build and Kaz's are that I spent a lot more on monitors, he spent more on CPU (i5 vs Pentium), and my build is small (miniITX vs ATX). I'm actually considering getting a higher-end CPU once Intel's Broadwell series is available.

For Kaz's build: do you intend to overclock?
If so, have you looked into how much you can or want to overclock with this build and how much it'll actually matter?
If not, you probably should consider getting a cheaper motherboard (H97 chipset is the same as Z97 except cheaper and without OC) and maybe cheaper CPU.

Some similar parts you might want to consider are:
Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ($93, H97, ATX)
Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H ($87, H97, microATX)
ASUS H97M-E ($95, H97, microATX, only 4 SATA ports)
ASUS H97-PLUS ($100, H97, ATX)
Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ($108, Z97, ATX)
Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H ($108, Z97, microATX)
Intel i5-4430 ($180, 3.0GHz)
Intel i5-4460 ($185, 3.2GHz)
Intel i5-4690 ($210, 3.5GHz)

For your purposes, microATX and ATX motherboards probably are interchangeable; they can both fit in full-size ATX cases and they can work with the same components. The only real difference between them is that microATX has fewer expansion card slots, but I imagine you only care about using one for a video card. MicroATX is often a bit cheaper than the equivalent ATX board, but occasionally can lose some other features like two of the RAM slots or some SATA connectors. The ones I listed all have 4 RAM slots.
O_O
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: snoorkel on November 12, 2014, 12:36:35 PM
don't skimp on the CPU. create zip archives at blazing pace.

Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: silvertone on November 13, 2014, 02:07:29 AM
the ghost in my computer
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: ME## on December 05, 2014, 07:01:42 AM
kaz, the r9 270x is on sale today for $165 after mir on ncixus.com plus free shipping
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Samus Aran on December 05, 2014, 12:34:44 PM
thanks for letting me know david, i may order it tonight after work happydood;

good timing too because i was planning on starting to buy this stuff this weekend lol
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: TooB on December 05, 2014, 12:36:26 PM
Quote from: David on November 09, 2014, 01:41:46 PM
will john take pix of kaz building his computer like an excited kid @ christman

It will be reminiscent of that scene in Serial Experiments Lain....
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: ME## on December 05, 2014, 12:42:09 PM
http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=91110&promoid=1034


Here's the link in case u can't find it because NCIX's UI is a bit gash tbf
Quote from: Jojo on December 05, 2014, 12:36:26 PM
Quote from: David on November 09, 2014, 01:41:46 PM
will john take pix of kaz building his computer like an excited kid @ christman

It will be reminiscent of that scene in Serial Experiments Lain....
:0
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: bluaki on December 05, 2014, 01:12:31 PM
Newegg's usual post-rebate price for that same exact card is $170, so that's actually only a $5 savings

Also, maybe I should've posted this here at the time: Newegg's Cyber Monday sale had $30 off any $150+ order with Paypal Checkout, so I bought myself a 270X then. The one I picked is Sapphire's Dual-X, which had a base price of $160 - $30 Paypal - $20 rebate = $110

But I think ASUS and MSI generally are said to make better cards
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Samus Aran on December 09, 2014, 12:10:22 AM
would anyone be willing to help me reliably pirate windows 7 or even just send me a livedisc, be it legit or pirated

i really don't want to spend money on it cry;
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Samus Aran on December 09, 2014, 12:44:06 AM
i went down to ddr3-1600 as opposed to 1866 on my 2x4gb ram, went down to 3.3ghz i5-4590 as opposed to a 3.5ghz i5-4690k, and switched to the Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ATX board that blu suggested

oh and took out the operating system

edit: now also changed from a samsung 128gb ssd to a kingston 120gb ssd for a lot less

down to $1047 $1008.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YbjrWZ

any other suggestions idk what else to do lol
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on December 09, 2014, 01:23:21 AM
have u considered a chromebook
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Samus Aran on December 09, 2014, 01:27:29 AM
have u considered deez nuts
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: Samus Aran on January 02, 2015, 09:35:18 AM
finally built this

however, i made a silly oversight and forgot to look into wireless cards/adapters, so it currently has no internet access and i have to wait a few days for a wireless adapter to get here lol

decided on a usb adapter instead of a pci card because of convenience, cost, and because the router is close by anyway
Title: Re: take a look at this possible new PC build
Post by: ME## on January 02, 2015, 09:41:53 AM
you should always have a 10m+ cat5 cable lying around for emergency purposes