The new games are 3DS exclusive both coming to 3DS, not announced for Switch.
They describe it as an "alternate story taking place in the world of Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon", so it's unclear whether this is like an enhanced version of the same game (like Emerald and Platinum) or a sequel (like Black 2 and White 2). It "features Pokémon that didn't appear in the original versions" and they've shown some sort of new form for Solgaleo and Lunala.
Launching worldwide on November 17.
Also, on September 22, Pokkén Tournament Deluxe is launching for Switch and Pokémon Gold & Silver are launching for the 3DS virtual console.
what WHAT
Rats was hoping they'd have ultra sun and moon for the switch. Oh well. Will probably get one of those and the virtual console gold/silver
They never directly said it's 3DS exclusive, but they did say both versions are coming to 3DS.
There were some press report slip-ups by Nintendo suggesting that both games might also be coming to Switch too.
If true, I think you can expect Nintendo will announce this during their E3 digital event. That would explain the timing: The Pokémon Company always wants to make their own announcement to reveal the games, but announcing a Switch version of them seems appropriate for an E3 reveal, so this USUM reveal came just one week before E3.
Quote from: bluaki on June 06, 2017, 07:54:52 AM
They never directly said it's 3DS exclusive, but they did say both versions are coming to 3DS.
There were some press report slip-ups by Nintendo suggesting that both games might also be coming to Switch too.
If true, I think you can expect Nintendo will announce this during their E3 digital event. That would explain the timing: The Pokémon Company always wants to make their own announcement to reveal the games, but announcing a Switch version of them seems appropriate for an E3 reveal, so this USUM reveal came just one week before E3.
You're getting my hopes up again Blu happydood; saddood;
Nintendo confirmed listing the switch was a clerical error and the only release plans are for 3ds. Fug
I was hoping they'd at least steal that cel shaded "no outlines" mod/emulator to make the game look better but unfortunately... :/
Quote from: YPargh on June 06, 2017, 09:49:48 AM
Nintendo confirmed listing the switch was a clerical error and the only release plans are for 3ds. Fug
I was hoping they'd at least steal that cel shaded "no outlines" mod/emulator to make the game look better but unfortunately... :/
I'm actually surprised they'd outright deconfirm it like this. Usually I'd expect no comment either way.
Also, I really hope this is a sequel, but sadly it's looking like it's probably a retelling. It's kinda weird they're making this only one year later; they haven't done a "third version" this quickly since Crystal.
I think I'm done with Nintendo...
You know what's more exciting than these?
The upcoming VC versions of gold and silver.
Now I'll be able to play (one of) these.
Old pokemon games are hard for me to go back to because they're not as streamlined and it takes forever to do some simple things that they've made better.
i kind of assume these will be less like yellow/crystal/emerald/platinum and more like black/white 2. at least, i hope so.
still, i don't really care right now.
silly but I think I'm okay without new pokemon for a little while
"features Pokémon that didn't appear in the original versions"
um so like every game after RBY? doodhuh; doodhuh; doodhuh; doodhuh; doodhuh; doodhuh; psyduck;
wow nintendo
'features some graphics'
Can't wait to see alolan mr. mime.
alolan dunsparce pls
I really hope there's more alolan pokemon (or any besides legendary forms)
Problem being it wouldn't be compatible with the original Sun and Moon. But for ORAS they introduced new megas that werent backwards compatible with X and Y so maybe they could still do it
they'll definitely add more alolan mons
Alolan Scrafty with dreadlocks pls
i find the overwhelming amount of butthurt over this announcement hilarious tbh
Quote from: C.Mongler on June 07, 2017, 05:21:11 AM
i find the overwhelming amount of butthurt over this announcement hilarious tbh
what, you mean all the people who wanted a sinnoh remake instead?
no those people are just morons because sinnoh was a shitstain on the franchise
i mean the people who are having tantrums that this isn't on the switch as if they don't own 6 iterations of 3DS consoles at their mom's house already
I don't think they're upset because they don't have a 3ds
I think they probs wanted the next game to be pretty and less rehashy
I wanted this to be playable on Switch because I feel like 3DS's awful hardware really holds back Pokémon and anything else released on it now that a better platform exists. It'd look so much nicer on Switch. Being able to play on a TV would be pretty nice too.
It doesn't even gain much of anything from 3DS's exclusive features since it doesn't support stereoscopic 3D at all and hardly uses the touch screen or dual-screens for anything important and doesn't use StreetPass at all.
Of course, I don't think any main Pokémon game should be exclusive to a new platform that's less than a year old, but dual-release would've been nice. The Mystery Dungeon series already did this with Red Rescue Team (GBA) and Blue Rescue Team (DS), but there's even more justification for it here since Switch isn't backwards-compatible and Nintendo is kinda competing with themselves.
tbh I have my doubts that the Switch in its current iteration is even especially child-friendly and ready to fully replace 3DS. A Switch Mini of sorts that gets rid of the removable controllers (the most fragile part) and doesn't include a dock could probably be priced a decent amount lower. Like the 2DS, that would be simplifying the design and sacrificing a defining feature for the sake of durability and price.
i mean 90% of the complaints i've seen are literally "IT ISN'T ON SWITCH???! THIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS"
we know next to nothing about it yet, so already calling it a rehash seems like a bit of early judgement
black and white 2 are probably the best pokemon games besides gold & silver despite being 'rehashy', so i'm not gonna jump to that conclusion quite yet
Quote from: bluaki on June 07, 2017, 12:31:31 PM
I wanted this to be playable on Switch because I feel like 3DS's awful hardware really holds back Pokémon and anything else released on it now that a better platform exists. It'd look so much nicer on Switch. Being able to play on a TV would be pretty nice too.
i mean would it be nice, sure but at best it would be an upscaled straight port, and while i am STOKED AS FUCK I CAN PLAY MONHUN ON THE BIG SCREEN AGAIN FINALLY, i dunno if you've seen the monster hunter XX switch screens yet but they look kinda like hot fucking ass. ULTIMATELY my guess though is gamefeet is already well into the planning/development stages of the switch-gen pokemons that won't be out until 2019 and this was developed alongside/after sun/moon to tide people over until then.
but i dunno anything about this game so i unno
Quote from: bluaki on June 07, 2017, 12:31:31 PM
I wanted this to be playable on Switch because I feel like 3DS's awful hardware really holds back Pokémon and anything else released on it now that a better platform exists. It'd look so much nicer on Switch. Being able to play on a TV would be pretty nice too.
It doesn't even gain much of anything from 3DS's exclusive features since it doesn't support stereoscopic 3D at all and hardly uses the touch screen or dual-screens for anything important and doesn't use StreetPass at all.
Yea I agree with this. I mean the 3ds could barely even handle Sun and Moon to begin with - it had noticeable lag just during the story ingame. It would have been nice to have the models upgraded and the bright island environment really shine on a more capable device. I don't know how much else they'll be able to squeeze out of the 3ds for the updates.
Quote from: C.Mongler on June 07, 2017, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: bluaki on June 07, 2017, 12:31:31 PM
I wanted this to be playable on Switch because I feel like 3DS's awful hardware really holds back Pokémon and anything else released on it now that a better platform exists. It'd look so much nicer on Switch. Being able to play on a TV would be pretty nice too.
i mean would it be nice, sure but at best it would be an upscaled straight port, and while i am STOKED AS FUCK I CAN PLAY MONHUN ON THE BIG SCREEN AGAIN FINALLY, i dunno if you've seen the monster hunter XX switch screens yet but they look kinda like hot fucking ass. ULTIMATELY my guess though is gamefeet is already well into the planning/development stages of the switch-gen pokemons that won't be out until 2019 and this was developed alongside/after sun/moon to tide people over until then.
but i dunno anything about this game so i unno
Just because monster hunter made it a straight port doesn't mean gamefreak would have to do the same. Sure, it'd be a lot more work but they could do it. Imo the 3ds models are already ugly because for some reason they gave all of them a black outline which looks jagged especially when in motion
so you would rather they port ultra sun & moon to switch, take 6 more months to do it, and then also probably significantly delay the first proper switch pokemon game in the process? but why lol doodhuh; are the FPS drops in dual battles that distracting to you?
dae want dark souls on switch?
Quote from: C.Mongler on June 07, 2017, 12:56:22 PM
so you would rather they port ultra sun & moon to switch, take 6 more months to do it, and then also probably significantly delay the first proper switch pokemon game in the process? but why lol doodhuh; are the FPS drops in dual battles that distracting to you?
Who says there is a proper switch pokemon game coming though?
Also why would you want fps drops when you can not have fps drops given the choice?
you're right, pokemon ultra sun and moon are the last pokemon games ever being made, RIP sweet prince :(
Quote from: YPargh on June 07, 2017, 01:07:04 PM
Also why would you want fps drops when you can not have fps drops given the choice?
i mean clearly we haven't been given the choice
haha pokemon ultra gay and ultra gay
haha
Quote from: C.Mongler on June 07, 2017, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: bluaki on June 07, 2017, 12:31:31 PM
I wanted this to be playable on Switch because I feel like 3DS's awful hardware really holds back Pokémon and anything else released on it now that a better platform exists. It'd look so much nicer on Switch. Being able to play on a TV would be pretty nice too.
i mean would it be nice, sure but at best it would be an upscaled straight port, and while i am STOKED AS FUCK I CAN PLAY MONHUN ON THE BIG SCREEN AGAIN FINALLY, i dunno if you've seen the monster hunter XX switch screens yet but they look kinda like hot fucking ass. ULTIMATELY my guess though is gamefeet is already well into the planning/development stages of the switch-gen pokemons that won't be out until 2019 and this was developed alongside/after sun/moon to tide people over until then.
but i dunno anything about this game so i unno
Unlike Monster Hunter, these Pokémon games were actually designed with models that are HD ready from the beginning. The overworld textures aren't very high-resolution, but Game Freak probably has better source textures that they had to downscale to get the 3DS to actually run.
Just get rid of the outline, increase the render resolution, export higher texture quality, and fix up the UI to work with one screen and you'd have a very nice port. Emulators have shown nice results with only half of those changes.
Quote from: the MIB the on June 07, 2017, 02:15:53 PM
haha pokemon ultra gay and ultra gay
haha
If it means my girl protagonist can date Lillie, sounds good to me goodjob;
Quote from: C.Mongler on June 07, 2017, 01:11:37 PM
you're right, pokemon ultra sun and moon are the last pokemon games ever being made, RIP sweet prince :(
Quote from: YPargh on June 07, 2017, 01:07:04 PM
Also why would you want fps drops when you can not have fps drops given the choice?
i mean clearly we haven't been given the choice
Are you capable of having any discussion without outlandish hyperbole and strawmen? It just makes you look like a dick
Gamefreak has said they have no interest in putting a main Pokemon game on a home console. It's not known whether they would consider the Switch a home console or portable/hybrid. Therefore it is not outlandish to wonder if the switch will get a mainline game in the future.
oh boy ad hominem arguments, those also are totally not-dickish, you sure pwned me with your logic 101 vocab lesson
how is that outlandish? the three literal options are 1) they continue to make pokemon games for the 3ds until the end of time 2) they eventually make pokemon games for the switch 3) they never make another pokemon game again
if option 2 is off the table than option 3 seems more likely than option 1 to me idk
Quote from: C.Mongler on June 07, 2017, 01:04:23 PM
dae want dark souls on switch?
nintendo fans are the saddest creatures on the face of the earth
Quote from: C.Mongler on June 07, 2017, 02:49:12 PM
oh boy ad hominem arguments, those also are totally not-dickish, you sure pwned me with your logic 101 vocab lesson
how is that outlandish? the three literal options are 1) they continue to make pokemon games for the 3ds until the end of time 2) they eventually make pokemon games for the switch 3) they never make another pokemon game again
if option 2 is off the table than option 3 seems more likely than option 1 to me idk
I don't care if I'm a dick when you start it n_u You need to let go of the caps lock
Or Nintendo makes a new handheld and puts the next Pokemon on that
i thought you said don't use outlandish hyperbole?
Pokemon Sun and Moon were pretty disappointing anyway.
they were far better than X&Y and Shinnoh (obvs lol) IMHO, but i also don't give a flying shit about end-game nor competitve shit; i play for the adventure
Is there mega drampa
Quote from: C.Mongler on June 07, 2017, 03:22:34 PM
they were far better than X&Y and Shinnoh (obvs lol) IMHO, but i also don't give a flying shit about end-game nor competitve shit; i play for the adventure
and for that reason (the adventure) I liked X better
i got bored of X half-way through and was getting PTSD flashbacks to how i felt playing platinum so i just bowed out; perhaps there was a good adventure in there eventually....
Quote from: C.Mongler on June 07, 2017, 03:27:10 PM
i got bored of X half-way through and was getting PTSD flashbacks to how i felt playing platinum so i just bowed out; perhaps there was a good adventure in there eventually....
idk, thing is I never played D/P/Pl so....
X was what got me back into Pokemon anyway (technically black did, but i only played black to get ready for X) but i thought x was great.
If every game was like black and white (only new Pokemon available during the campaign) that'd be cool
Quote from: Big Goop on June 07, 2017, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: C.Mongler on June 07, 2017, 03:27:10 PM
i got bored of X half-way through and was getting PTSD flashbacks to how i felt playing platinum so i just bowed out; perhaps there was a good adventure in there eventually....
idk, thing is I never played D/P/Pl so....
X was what got me back into Pokemon anyway (technically black did, but i only played black to get ready for X) but i thought x was great.
You're lucky it was garbageeeee
Although HGSS on the same engine were amazing
Quote from: YPargh on June 07, 2017, 03:31:33 PM
If every game was like black and white (only new Pokemon available during the campaign) that'd be cool Quote from: Big Goop on June 07, 2017, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: C.Mongler on June 07, 2017, 03:27:10 PM
i got bored of X half-way through and was getting PTSD flashbacks to how i felt playing platinum so i just bowed out; perhaps there was a good adventure in there eventually....
idk, thing is I never played D/P/Pl so....
X was what got me back into Pokemon anyway (technically black did, but i only played black to get ready for X) but i thought x was great.
You're lucky it was garbageeeee
Although HGSS on the same engine were amazing
so I hear, but I ain't spending ~$50 to try HGSS.
I'll just get one of em on VC
Quote from: YPargh on June 07, 2017, 01:07:04 PM
Who says there is a proper switch pokemon game coming though?
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Quote from: C.Mongler on June 13, 2017, 09:14:37 AM
Quote from: YPargh on June 07, 2017, 01:07:04 PM
Who says there is a proper switch pokemon game coming though?
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I've never been so happy to be a bitch cry;
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