I know lately more and more restaurants are getting rid of their "smoking" sections, whether on their own decisions or through force of the law. So does this affect any non-smokers? If you were given the preference, would you prefer to go to a restaurant that had no "smokers" option?
Or if there are any smokers around (I'm fairly certain there aren't many on Boyah), are you offended or anything by these movements?
Personally, the smokers/non-smokers sections never bothered me at all when out and about. I actually enjoy the smell of cigarette smoke, and just having it around never really bugged me. One of my friends, on the other hand, just being around clothing that was worn by a smoker causes her eyed to water and her throat to get scratchy, so I can see how it would be troublesome for someone like her.
*Please, no Zayna jokes, be nice and try to be intelligent.
Being in the south, going to any restaurant would be hell. The smoking sections were often larger than the non-smoking, and you could get hit with a cloud of smoke just by opening up the door. Hell, it's pretty bad when there's more smoke in a McDonald's than a bar.
It's a lot better now that the law has been passed, because I really can't be anywhere near smoke. If I'm around it for more than about 2 minutes, I often have the urge to vomit, and just getting a single puff in my face makes me want to throw up. Really, I just think smoking anywhere in public should be banned. Shitty habits that can harm everyone should be left in one's own home, and nowhere else.
also i probably feel worse for kids that have parents that smoke than anyone else because theyre stuck with it and cant do jack shit (probably one of the things that led zayna to start). I really think smoking with or near a child should just be considered abuse.
Quote from: Lawlz on October 12, 2007, 01:35:22 PM
I really think smoking with or near a child should just be considered abuse.
Uh.. I'm not sure I agree with this, just because of my own personal experience. My dad and grandma (who I lived with for quite some time) have been smokers all my life, and I certainly have no urge to smoke as a result of it.
Quote from: Pinkkkkkkkkkkk on October 12, 2007, 01:37:45 PM
Uh.. I'm not sure I agree with this, just because of my own personal experience. My dad and grandma (who I lived with for quite some time) have been smokers all my life, and I certainly have no urge to smoke as a result of it.
um but its harmful and the child really cant do anything about it psyduck;
Here, have this box full of AIDS and cancer, you filthy little bastard. Your mother and father don't love you.
Quote from: Lawlz on October 12, 2007, 01:39:30 PM
um but its harmful and the child really cant do anything about it psyduck;
Here, have this box full of AIDS and cancer, you filthy little bastard. Your mother and father don't love you.
Well, smoking doesn't give you AIDS, and it's not a very funny joke. also, I'm fairly certain that my daddy loves me, but whatever.
Quote from: Pinkkkkkkkkkkk on October 12, 2007, 01:43:27 PM
Well, smoking doesn't give you AIDS, and it's not a very funny joke. also, I'm fairly certain that my daddy loves me, but whatever.
cool so heres various diseases and toxic chemicals in your face
My daddy feeds me rat poison. spam;
Quote from: Lawlz on October 12, 2007, 01:35:22 PM
Being in the south, going to any restaurant would be hell. The smoking sections were often larger than the non-smoking, and you could get hit with a cloud of smoke just by opening up the door. Hell, it's pretty bad when there's more smoke in a McDonald's than a bar.
It's a lot better now that the law has been passed, because I really can't be anywhere near smoke. If I'm around it for more than about 2 minutes, I often have the urge to vomit, and just getting a single puff in my face makes me want to throw up. Really, I just think smoking anywhere in public should be banned. Shitty habits that can harm everyone should be left in one's own home, and nowhere else.
also i probably feel worse for kids that have parents that smoke than anyone else because theyre stuck with it and cant do jack shit (probably one of the things that led zayna to start). I really think smoking with or near a child should just be considered abuse.
I completely agree with you. I think smoking is absolutely disgusting and unacceptable in public. They should think about everyone that has to deal with that smoke. It's even worse when the person who doesn't smoke suffers from second hand smoke and gets cancer.
In California you can't smoke almost anywhere. No restaurants or bars or anything let you smoke at all. You have to be 18 to enter a bar, and they're trying to pass a law for no smoking in cars (at all).
Quote from: Lawlz on October 12, 2007, 01:35:22 PM
(probably one of the things that led zayna to start)
shut up already
Quote from: Lawlz on October 12, 2007, 01:35:22 PM
also i probably feel worse for kids that have parents that smoke than anyone else because theyre stuck with it and cant do jack shit
probably why aren't you certain
Quote from: Lawlz on October 12, 2007, 01:35:22 PM
I really think smoking with or near a child should just be considered abuse.
okay how would this be enforced, and wouldn't it be much easier just to outlaw smoking altogether psyduck;
alcohol too
Quote from: Commodore Guff on October 12, 2007, 03:59:59 PM
wouldn't it be much easier just to outlaw smoking altogether psyduck;
alcohol too
Good idea, but the prohibition proved that it wouldn't work.
Quote from: Guava on October 12, 2007, 04:11:49 PM
Good idea, but the prohibition proved that it wouldn't work.
i'm sure banning the use of it near any children ever would be much more feasible though
Quote from: Commodore Guff on October 12, 2007, 04:18:17 PM
i'm sure banning the use of it near any children ever would be much more feasible though
If hidden cameras were installed in all homes so Big Brother could keep perpetual watch, yes.
I really hate inhaling a fucking puff of smoke while eating.
Quote from: Precious on October 12, 2007, 11:52:48 PM
I really hate inhaling a fucking puff of smoke while eating.
When I went to Nebraska they asked my family smoking or non-smoking. Man, living in California, I haven't heard that since I was about five years old. They banned all of that so long ago but they still have smoking and non-smoking in other states. I also thought it was pretty gross to eat and smell smoke. I don't mind smoke that much, as long as I don't have to live in it everywhere I go and as long as I don't have to eat and smell smoke.
I hate smoke because then I have to wash my clothes twice as much as I usually do.
Quote from: Lawlz on October 12, 2007, 01:35:22 PM
Shitty habits that can harm everyone should be left in one's own home, and nowhere else.
Some shitty habits make big $, and the people that are profiting from them would turn the world into smokers and drinkers if it meant more $.
These industries need to be somehow shut down, and getting rid of smoking areas is one small step towards a no-addict future. spam;
Quote from: Nyerp on October 13, 2007, 07:23:05 AM
Some shitty habits make big $, and the people that are profiting from them would turn the world into smokers and drinkers if it meant more $.
These industries need to be somehow shut down, and getting rid of smoking areas is one small step towards a no-addict future. spam;
It's almost humorous how much shit we've put the tobacco companies through and how much profit they're
still making. I agree that they should really be shut down. Not because cigarettes are addictive, just because they're extremely dangerous. Then again, we all know how the prohibitions went. Would it really work? Help, sure, but it could even cause more problems.
And this is a little off the discussion, but I don't think alcohol is anywhere near as bad as cigarettes/cigars/tobacco; used in moderation, there is very little danger (except that of bad judgement).
Quote from: Pinkkkkkkkkkkk on October 13, 2007, 07:34:59 AM
It's almost humorous how much shit we've put the tobacco companies through and how much profit they're still making. I agree that they should really be shut down. Not because cigarettes are addictive, just because they're extremely dangerous. Then again, we all know how the prohibitions went. Would it really work? Help, sure, but it could even cause more problems.
And this is a little off the discussion, but I don't think alcohol is anywhere near as bad as cigarettes/cigars/tobacco; used in moderation, there is very little danger (except that of bad judgement).
why would a whole bunch of people start smoking if it were prohibited? psyduck;
i know alcohol isn't as "bad" (even though it is spam; ) it causes car crashes lots and lots of them and we don't need that
Quote from: Pinkkkkkkkkkkk on October 13, 2007, 07:34:59 AM
It's almost humorous how much shit we've put the tobacco companies through and how much profit they're still making. I agree that they should really be shut down. Not because cigarettes are addictive, just because they're extremely dangerous. Then again, we all know how the prohibitions went. Would it really work? Help, sure, but it could even cause more problems.
And this is a little off the discussion, but I don't think alcohol is anywhere near as bad as cigarettes/cigars/tobacco; used in moderation, there is very little danger (except that of bad judgement).
It's easier to crack down on smoking than it is to prevent people from drinking alcohol.
A person could be walking down the street with a Mountain Dew bottle filled with beer. It's impossible to tell what it is unless you go up and sniff or drink it. If you see a puff of smoke coming out of a person's mouth, you know exactly what they are doing. I don't give a damn if they do it on their own property; they just shouldn't do it anywhere besides that, or around children.
I had to live with smoking parents. I got my mother to stop but my dad smoked to his death. I call him a stupid shit for it, still.
I can't be around smoke or my airways close up, and then I need to get coffee to get them to relax, which is why I always carry around a mug in a bag and a thermos and shit. IT's really helpful, but it doesn't help the horrid smell either. being an autistic is also introducing like, hypersensitivity. I can smell the smoke on anyone from pretty much anywhere, and I usually give them major shit. I got punched in the face for grabbing some guy's cigarette and putting it out on my ass.
But yeah, I don't think they can eliminate every single smoking area. It's impossible, and even if you did, there's the homes, and where it pushes other people to. To get it to be effective, we'd need a change in who runs the government. The NPD keeps fucking with our province's funding, DIRECTLY sENDING IT OVERSEAS, instead of treating the horrible wage and tax problems we got here. Man..
But, it's useless as we are now to eliminate every single smoking area. If we do a few, it should be good, though.
Quote from: Nyerp on October 13, 2007, 07:39:02 AM
why would a whole bunch of people start smoking if it were prohibited? psyduck;
i know alcohol isn't as "bad" (even though it is spam; ) it causes car crashes lots and lots of them and we don't need that
Oh, I'm not saying they'd start; but I am saying they wouldn't stop. It would just be throwing in a whole new black market.
Quote from: Nyerp on October 13, 2007, 07:39:02 AM
why would a whole bunch of people start smoking if it were prohibited? psyduck;
Everyone knows breaking the rules/law is the cool thing to do.
Though, according to that logic, I'm not cool at all. I need to go murder someone and become awesome.
Quote from: Lawlz on October 12, 2007, 01:35:22 PM
Being in the south, going to any restaurant would be hell. The smoking sections were often larger than the non-smoking, and you could get hit with a cloud of smoke just by opening up the door. Hell, it's pretty bad when there's more smoke in a McDonald's than a bar.
It's a lot better now that the law has been passed, because I really can't be anywhere near smoke. If I'm around it for more than about 2 minutes, I often have the urge to vomit, and just getting a single puff in my face makes me want to throw up. Really, I just think smoking anywhere in public should be banned. Shitty habits that can harm everyone should be left in one's own home, and nowhere else.
also i probably feel worse for kids that have parents that smoke than anyone else because theyre stuck with it and cant do jack shit (probably one of the things that led zayna to start). I really think smoking with or near a child should just be considered abuse.
Just be glad Tennessee has a Smoking ban law
Quote from: Godzooky on October 13, 2007, 05:37:27 PM
Just be glad Tennessee has a Smoking ban law
Finally.
I haven't seen one in years. Smoking inside restaurants has been illegal for quite a while in Massachusetts.
I say make smoking illegal unless in your house, and no one else is in it unless the other person is a smoker themselves.
I don't give a shit if you want to get lung cancer, but I personally don't. I also don't feel like gagging on shit whenever I walk out the doors of the mall.
I'd love for the tobacco companies to just be shut down completely, but I don't really see that happening any time soon. There was a smoking ban put into effect in Minnesota at the beginning of October, which prohibits smoking in any public buildings. I guess it's a step in the right direction, but those bastards just have to take a step outside to get a puff, and it could still be harming innocent people around them.
I've always been against smoking, and I've always found it disgusting to have people smoking cigarettes while I'm eating my food. I'd rather taste the food, not the smoke. So I can easily say I'm happy about that smoking ban.
If people want to smoke, they can do it somewhere else. Lock those bastards in a god damn airtight room and let them smoke their fucking lungs out so they don't have to harm any unwilling smokers around them.
god dammit fuck
petpeeeeevveee
First off, if all public place had no smoking areas, then there would be less disease, lung cancer etc. >_> Second, people die from secondhand smoking. and Third, smoking pollute the environment. So I support the No-Smoking areas. There should be more of those.
I honestly wasn't bothered much by the smoking section. I don't smoke, nor do I condone it, but I wasn't annoyed with their being a section for it. But like you mentioned, some are bothered by it, and I can see why laws are being made to eliminate it. I guess the idea behind it is that people who smoke are the minority, and it's unfair to appeal to them. That's just my thinking.
Quote from: samsam on October 12, 2007, 01:37:45 PM
Uh.. I'm not sure I agree with this, just because of my own personal experience. My dad and grandma (who I lived with for quite some time) have been smokers all my life, and I certainly have no urge to smoke as a result of it.
By abuse he's not talking about the influence, he's talking about being breathed upon by the toxic mouthes of farting hogs. But It's okay, I'm sure they still love you even though they're breathing AIDS on your face.
Quote from: Bassir C. on November 24, 2007, 08:44:26 AM
By abuse he's not talking about the influence, he's talking about being breathed upon by the toxic mouthes of farting hogs. But It's okay, I'm sure they still love you even though they're breathing AIDS on your face.
Gee, thanks Bassir. :\
On a side note, my Grandma had a heart attack (which wasn't smoking related, it was her being a fatty related), and she hasn't smoked since. My dad still smokes, but only while his working so I never see it, I guess. Nobody has ever smoked
in my house though, they always step out.
Quote from: samsam on November 24, 2007, 10:53:13 AM
Nobody has ever smoked in my house though, they always step out.
I'm sure if they did, you'd be the one in the ER.
Quote from: Bassir C. on November 24, 2007, 11:37:24 AM
I'm sure if they did, you'd be the one in the ER.
...I doubt it, but okay.
I think buisnesses should be allowed to decide for themselves in this issue. Don't like it? Vote with your dollar and get out.
Personally I hate the smell of cigarrette smoke. I have to put up with it when driving with my friends, and I'm in back seat and they're sitting right in front of me. I fucking hate it. Then my clothes smell like smoke and I have to go home. I immediately throw them into the wash.
I always have to open a window when riding in cars, and lately with this freezing weather it's been a pain.
Minnesota (or at least the whole Twin Cities area) passed a law a couple years ago banning smoking in all public buildings (except bars, I think). I actually just noticed that the other day... I was like, "Weird, I remember when they asked 'smoking or non-smoking?' at restaurants.
I definitely prefer my public establishments smoke-free, though. caterpie;
I have asthma, and many people in my family smoke, and even though I hate it, I don't mind when restaurants don't separate the smoking sections from the non-smoking sections. If I start feeling like I can't breathe well, I can just step outside or something.
But, I live in the south, so the law was passed, and I can breathe just fine.
Its nice to enter a restaurant and not choke on the amount of cigarette smoke there is in the air.
i went to st. Louise over spring break and was surprised to find out that it's illegal to smoke inside anywhere. it was great! i can't stand cigarettes.
I cant really understand this site's infatuation with discussing ciggarettes as if they're the root of all evil. If you dont like it, stay away from it.
Plus, being around someone who smokes occasionaly does not mean you'll die from second hand smoke.
It's kind of hilarious.
Quote from: Boognish on April 15, 2008, 10:08:13 AM
If you dont like it, stay away from it.
Leading to the discussion of Non-Smoking Areas.
There's plenty of them around. It should be up to the establishment to decide whether or not they decide to ban or allow smokers.
If a restaurant or bar or w/e wants to allow smoking, let 'em do it. But mostly, public smoking shouldn't be allowed.
Well I usually don't smoke in resturaunts so it really doesn't matter to me.
But I think that they should do something to get cigarette smoke away from children. Even though second-hand smoke isn't 100% proven we still shouldn't take that risk.