-metroid prime is amazing overall but even a fanboy like me will admit that it has HUGE backtracking problems that the 2D metroid games didn't. mostly the artifact fetch quest which is legitimately bad.
-wind waker is my favorite zelda and one of my favorite games ever BUT why are there so many lame, virtually identical tiny islands, why are there so few dungeons, and why why why do we have to do the lame-ass triforce shard hunt? wow a lot like the artifact shit in prime lmao
-mirror's edge has a lame story, bad combat, a ridiculously terrible "final boss" room of the last level, and the cutscenes have a shit art style. but GOD I LOVE THIS GAME for its core gameplay
-super mario galaxy's postgame being almost exactly identical to the main game, and that being the only way to achieve 100% completion
Bed of Chaos in Dark Souls....
Most late game areas too
now this is a good thread
gta v is amazing but the ending is laaaaaaame and online is a disgrace
in shadow of the colossus the physics can be a bit wonky and there really should be just a tad more hidden goodies
Quote from: Big Goop on July 30, 2018, 10:32:32 PMBed of Chaos in Dark Souls....
Most late game areas too
Everything after New Londo Ruins, really. awdood;
and even new londo ruins feels underdeveloped
-skyrim being an inexcusably unstable glitchy piece of crap that basically requires mods to fix and is nigh unplayable on consoles
Quote from: Hiro on July 30, 2018, 10:33:12 PMin shadow of the colossus the physics can be a bit wonky and there really should be just a tad more hidden goodies
"a bit" lmao
the physics in sotc can be downright insane at times, and it's incredibly buggy
look at this shit that happened to me in the latest version on the ps4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq0p1PsUqLs
it really is one of my favorite games of all time though
- the witcher 3's sidequests don't scale with your level
which kind of sucks because a lot of them are actually interesting, but you won't want to do them because the reward isn't worth it
...afaicr this was the only issue i had with the game lol
well the ps4 normie version had some framedrop issues as well
- persona 5 might actually genuinely be too long?
i mean, P3 and P4 weren't as long and they didn't need to be as long either
- skyrim is JANKY AS FUCK tec already posted it anyway
- yoshi's island is too short saddood;
Quote from: Hiro on July 30, 2018, 10:33:12 PMin shadow of the colossus [...] there really should be just a tad more hidden goodies
this is really my only complaint about sotc: i wish there were more to be found
i can't even complain about the physics or framerate too much because i so greatly admire the sheer technical spectacle japan studio managed to pull off on ps2 lol
-demon's souls is just way too punitive
-bloodborne's plot is ridiculous
i can follow up to the point of 'playing with poorly understood forces leads to human augmentation gone horribly wrong', but beyond that it just gets wacky lol
Kefka's tower is among the worst final dungeons in rpgs
mario can't shoot gun
Quote from: Nyerp on July 31, 2018, 11:20:33 AMmario can't shoot gun
He can, in Kingdom Battle.
BotW was fun (not my favorite) but the variety of enemies was terrible.
Most of the *blins and some lizalfos, plus their skeletons made it. Small things like Chuchus, octoroks, and keese made it. Some of the larger minibosses (lynel, hinox) made it but it is missing:
Stalfos
Redeads/Gibdos
Darknuts and/or Iron Knuckles
Poes
Wall/floor masters
Beamos
Like Like
Tektite
Dodongo
Skulltilla
Deku {baba, scrub} (or even NPC dekus)
Wolfos
Armos
Peahat
These are enemies that were pretty common in some of the bigger games, if not most of of them, and i'm not sure how even the DLC didn't bring these guys in.
Quote from: Big Goop on July 31, 2018, 11:22:04 AMQuote from: Nyerp on July 31, 2018, 11:20:33 AMmario can't shoot gun
He can, in Kingdom Battle.
are you implying that that's one of my favorite games
my favorite game is moiro kort for hures
Quote from: Khadafi on July 31, 2018, 11:30:07 AMBotW was fun (not my favorite) but the variety of enemies was terrible.
Most of the *blins and some lizalfos, plus their skeletons made it. Small things like Chuchus, octoroks, and keese made it. Some of the larger minibosses (lynel, hinox) made it but it is missing:
Stalfos
Redeads/Gibdos
Darknuts and/or Iron Knuckles
Poes
Wall/floor masters
Beamos
Like Like
Tektite
Dodongo
Skulltilla
Deku {baba, scrub} (or even NPC dekus)
Wolfos
Armos
Peahat
These are enemies that were pretty common in some of the bigger games, if not most of of them, and i'm not sure how even the DLC didn't bring these guys in.
(https://i.imgur.com/bYufqhR.png) who is dis
i can't even speak about botw in this thread because it isn't nearly one of my "favorite games" lol
Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 31, 2018, 11:47:18 AMi can't even speak about botw in this thread because it isn't nearly one of my "favorite games" lol
too late
GTAV-I can't open up the phone to Grindr and fine boipucci to f*ck in Los Santos
Quote from: sc2020 on July 31, 2018, 11:45:08 AMQuote from: Khadafi on July 31, 2018, 11:30:07 AMBotW was fun (not my favorite) but the variety of enemies was terrible.
Most of the *blins and some lizalfos, plus their skeletons made it. Small things like Chuchus, octoroks, and keese made it. Some of the larger minibosses (lynel, hinox) made it but it is missing:
Stalfos
Redeads/Gibdos
Darknuts and/or Iron Knuckles
Poes
Wall/floor masters
Beamos
Like Like
Tektite
Dodongo
Skulltilla
Deku {baba, scrub} (or even NPC dekus)
Wolfos
Armos
Peahat
These are enemies that were pretty common in some of the bigger games, if not most of of them, and i'm not sure how even the DLC didn't bring these guys in.
(https://i.imgur.com/bYufqhR.png) who is dis
Stalkoblin which is just a variation on the bokoblins they already have like 5 versions of.
stalfos is cooler
Quote from: Big Goop on July 31, 2018, 11:22:04 AMQuote from: Nyerp on July 31, 2018, 11:20:33 AMmario can't shoot gun
He can, in Kingdom Battle.
And in Smash Bros when he picks up a Ray Gun or Super Scope
and in the Olympic games for the shooting event and a few similar Mario Party minigames
Quote from: Khadafi on July 31, 2018, 01:02:23 PMQuote from: sc2020 on July 31, 2018, 11:45:08 AMQuote from: Khadafi on July 31, 2018, 11:30:07 AMBotW was fun (not my favorite) but the variety of enemies was terrible.
Most of the *blins and some lizalfos, plus their skeletons made it. Small things like Chuchus, octoroks, and keese made it. Some of the larger minibosses (lynel, hinox) made it but it is missing:
Stalfos
Redeads/Gibdos
Darknuts and/or Iron Knuckles
Poes
Wall/floor masters
Beamos
Like Like
Tektite
Dodongo
Skulltilla
Deku {baba, scrub} (or even NPC dekus)
Wolfos
Armos
Peahat
These are enemies that were pretty common in some of the bigger games, if not most of of them, and i'm not sure how even the DLC didn't bring these guys in.
(https://i.imgur.com/bYufqhR.png) who is dis
Stalkoblin which is just a variation on the bokoblins they already have like 5 versions of.
stalfos is cooler
OIC. i was j/wing i never played it but i saw the skelly in a dunkey video
Mother 3: half the game is prologue; monkey chapter was neat 4 story but also kinda boring.
Half Life 2: has aged like dog shit and its derivatives have trumped it in almost every way in 2018.
Nier Automata: route B is neat for story reasons but it's a fucking slog to actually play through.
Final Fantasy 6: second half of the game is shit compared to the first. also final dungeon is kind of ass.
Witcher 3: combat.
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past: some of the later dungeons are annoyingly hard combined with unforgiving backtracking if you eat shit and die.
Resident Evil 4: controls have aged like shit, ashley is shit, story also isn't that great. not scary at all unless you're 12.
Dota 2: absurd learning curve.
Quote from: C.Mongler on July 31, 2018, 03:37:05 PMResident Evil 4: controls have aged like shit
Play the Wii version. 5thgrade;
trashley a shit though ur right
the controls are fine. ashley's fine. :|
trashley is such a disrespectful little whelp
and i haven't played any version but the wii version, but that version's controls are p. fantastic and i specifically sought the wii port for that reason lol
Re4 aged wonderfully.
I still don't understand why people think witcher combat is bad.
Quote from: Big Goop on July 31, 2018, 04:07:10 PMRe4 aged wonderfully.
I still don't understand why people think witcher combat is bad.
personally i don't think it's bad, it's just the worst part of the game. it's annoying to figure out at first, and then once you find out quen is fucking broken the game becomes trivially easy, at least on normal difficulty
Civilization is awesome but in general the AI is usually kind of bad and has to be propped up by advantageous start conditions at higher difficulties.
Also the lategame can get pretty boring.
i find most of my civ lategames are either me completely crushing every other civilization or barely hanging in there and definitely having no chance of victory. there's never been like, a truly competitive civ late game that i've experienced.
granted i've probably played less than 10 civ games to lategame and i always play against cpus lol
somebody do ffvii 5thgrade;
FF7 has an awful translation, which makes the story unclear sometimes.
It also led to several bad spinoffs and sequels.
Quote from: C.Mongler on July 31, 2018, 06:53:11 PMi find most of my civ lategames are either me completely crushing every other civilization or barely hanging in there and definitely having no chance of victory. there's never been like, a truly competitive civ late game that i've experienced.
granted i've probably played less than 10 civ games to lategame and i always play against cpus lol
Yeah Ive played hundreds of games and the amount of times it's actually competitive at the end has to be about 10 times or less
also for ffvii vincent is a terrible character and i didn't really like aeris much either
Quote from: Nyerp on July 31, 2018, 03:51:31 PMthe controls are fine. ashley's fine. :|
agreed, i really don't see these "issues"
trashley is an unbelievably annoying insolent child and i don't see how anybody could disagree with that lol
nonetheless, i don't think i'd actually change her at all, not every character has to be likable for them to be a good character and i don't necessarily have to agree with every personality i come across
she's petulant in a way that ultimately adds more to her character than it subtracts from it, i think, so i suppose it's not really an "issue"
but she's still a disrespectful little whelp
i mean i'll agree that she's "annoying" because of her...somewhat grating voice and because of her complete uselessness compared to Leon's sheer badassery
but like, the actual act of escorting her? frankly i think RE4 handles this VERY well. i've never understood how some people think RE4's status as an "escort game" is a detriment. it ramps up the tension and it's VERY forgiving anyway in this regard, letting you hide her pretty frequently and she doesn't actually take damage when enemies grab her, and you have ages to free her of an enemy's grasp
i also agree with you tec that her petulance adds to her character
lmao
Quote from: Samus Aran on August 01, 2018, 12:47:13 AMbut like, the actual act of escorting her? frankly i think RE4 handles this VERY well.
oh yeah i agree with this lol, i don't recall her ever really being a detriment to the gameplay
she's just whiny as fuck; lol
How about a little...... overtime?
Quote from: Big Goop on August 01, 2018, 12:50:19 AMHow about a little...... overtime?
how about a little more time in the dumpster
Quote from: Samus Aran on August 01, 2018, 12:47:13 AMand because of her complete uselessness compared to Leon's sheer badassery
it's not even that i necessarily expect her to be useful, i mean you go in knowing she's a dead weight hostage
But she doesn't seem to have so much as a shred of respect for the fact that Leon is risking his own life to save hers, and she is nobody to him. :|
nothing but pure sass, that one
but it's a coherent personality for her and makes her memorable in a way that isn't actually bad lol
yeah i agree with all of that but i don't see her as a "flaw" in any meaningful way other than her slightly annoying voice actress lol
yeah i wouldn't actually call her a flaw either lol, if anything i'd say capcom nailed the irritating childish persona they were going for
Quote from: Samus Aran on August 01, 2018, 01:17:14 AMyeah i agree with all of that but i don't see her as a "flaw" in any meaningful way other than her slightly annoying voice actress lol
No disrespect allowed to Sandy Cheeks
-super metroid has an infamous final save point that, if used, effectively locks you into the final part of the game because you can't leave tourian once you're that deep into it. huge oversight in a metroid game.
-metroid zero mission's final boss is both incredibly stupid and piss easy, easily the biggest letdown in anotherwise fantastic game
Bravely Defaults infamous endgame....
....which i didn't find nearly as bad as some seem to.
-this dumb shit
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2yHMd8I3o1s
controls are a flaw in metroid prime 1 & 2 no matter which way you slice it, but in both cases only for very specific reasons.
for the gamecube controls, the real big flaw is not being able to freely look around without holding the R button. there are some specific parts of the game where this clunky aspect of aiming is detrimental to your experience, and it's just generally annoying to get hit by something or miss seeing something simply because you're not really going to attempt to look up or down when you know you have to stop and hold R to do it.
for the wii remote controls, the flaw is the way beam switching works. on the gamecube, it was as simple as flicking the c-stick to the direction indicated on the hud. but since you can't do that on a wii remote, you instead have to take an extra step, opening up a sort of quick menu and pointing the wii remote at the beam icon you want. while it does work, it's a bit clunky and not very intuitive.
all this in mind, i think both control schemes are just fine, but obviously the wii remote is a more "fluid" experience if you're not used to old console FPS games that had single-stick controls
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 01, 2018, 01:58:23 AM-this dumb shit
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2yHMd8I3o1s
hey now that's not fair, that's an entirely optional energy tank and is intended to reward skillful players
not a flaw :|
in fact i think it's awesome that zero mission in particular has lots of really cool and interesting puzzles around optional upgrades
Quote from: Samus Aran on August 01, 2018, 12:47:13 AMit ramps up the tension
no it doesn't
Quote from: Samus Aran on August 01, 2018, 12:47:13 AMand it's VERY forgiving anyway in this regard
yeah, cuz it's boring
it's like mom telling you you have to make your bed before playing video games. is it that much of a hassle? not really. would i rather just not? yeah.
I'd rather babysit Ashley than Sheva anyday
Quote from: Big Goop on August 01, 2018, 10:35:20 AMI'd rather babysit Ashley than Sheva anyday
this
at least ashley doesn't run off on her own to get her head chainsawed off offscreen
off
You guys can have Trashley. I'll take Sheva. (https://i.imgur.com/BOysUa1.png)
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 01, 2018, 11:08:34 AMYou guys can have Trashley. I'll take Sheva. (https://i.imgur.com/BOysUa1.png)
I'd rather play as sheva, but then Chris becomes worse than Ashley.
Quote from: C.Mongler on August 01, 2018, 04:55:07 AMQuote from: Samus Aran on August 01, 2018, 12:47:13 AMit ramps up the tension
no it doesn't
Quote from: Samus Aran on August 01, 2018, 12:47:13 AMand it's VERY forgiving anyway in this regard
yeah, cuz it's boring
it's like mom telling you you have to make your bed before playing video games. is it that much of a hassle? not really. would i rather just not? yeah.
then hide her. it's literally almost always possible to simply hide her out of sight/range of enemies by simply telling her to wait, even when there's no dumpster to hide in
actual complaint about re4:
what the fuck; is the point of distracting the player with such a banal task as basic inventory management
it just pointlessly diverts attention from the main game and wastes time :|
why does this grown man need mother to pack his lunchbox
what, you think the game should just let you carry everything you pick up? what game does that?
or are you referring to the fact that the game unfortunately doesn't organize things in the case in such a way that uses all the space efficiently? because that bit is slightly annoying but it's such a tiny thing i've never even thought of it as a genuine flaw
i hope you're not genuinely feeling like the game doesn't let you carry enough stuff though because re4 lets you carry way, way more than is necessary lol. it's baby resident evil in that regard.
no, i don't necessarily mind having a limited inventory, sometimes that's totally appropriate for balance reasons
Quote from: Samus Aran on August 03, 2018, 09:37:48 PMor are you referring to the fact that the game unfortunately doesn't organize things in the case in such a way that uses all the space efficiently?
this is what i'm referring to specifically, and indeed it is annoying and feels like a pointless time killer to have to go and solve this extremely basic puzzle minigame every time you pick up a new item
it's not a "huge" flaw but it's perhaps re4's most obvious fault (which i guess says a lot about just how good re4 is in general lol)
confession: i take pleasure in organizing it very neatly goowan
Quote from: Samus Aran on August 03, 2018, 10:15:26 PMconfession: i take pleasure in organizing it very neatly goowan
same 5thgrade;
here's another small nitpick i have about my favorite game. the wrecked ship in super metroid feels kinda...tacked on? like it doesn't really make a ton of sense in the overall context of the world, it doesn't really segue nicely into crateria and the actual interior of the ship doesn't really make any sense either - it doesn't feel like a ship at all.
big 2d metroid nitpick and probably my only complaint about the 2d metroids in general (or super metroid and zero mission, at least):
the pacing of those games would be virtually flawless if not for the fact that enhancements like missile capacity upgrades/energy tanks/etc. are all randomly strewn about the map and essentially require you to play hide-and-seek to find them (or consult a guide)
sometimes their locations are obvious, but sometimes it means basically scanning and bombing arbitrary walls until you find a thing, which i think interferes with the otherwise excellent flow of those games
in fact, that is probably the only significant thing that makes super metroid any less than perfect lol
mega tlou spoils:
the sequence of events between the end of the aqueduct (ellie passes out and both are captured by fireflies) to the end of the hospital is the most contorted, contrived part of an otherwise extremely natural-feeling experience
i mean i get why it kind of had to be but it still feels inconsistent with the rest of the game and leaves a mildly unpleasant aftertaste akudood;
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 04, 2018, 10:50:54 AMbig 2d metroid nitpick and probably my only complaint about the 2d metroids in general (or super metroid and zero mission, at least):
the pacing of those games would be virtually flawless if not for the fact that enhancements like missile capacity upgrades/energy tanks/etc. are all randomly strewn about the map and essentially require you to play hide-and-seek to find them (or consult a guide)
sometimes their locations are obvious, but sometimes it means basically scanning and bombing arbitrary walls until you find a thing, which i think interferes with the otherwise excellent flow of those games
in fact, that is probably the only significant thing that makes super metroid any less than perfect lol
yeah i kind of lose a lot of enjoyment out of metroid/metroid-like games because of this. i really liked Samus Returns inclusion of a WHEREDEYAT? button, however that game just had a lot of repetitiveness in bosses that counteracted the good will I had for it for including that feature so cmongler; lol
Quote from: C.Mongler on August 17, 2018, 06:58:21 AMhowever that game just had a lot of repetitiveness in bosses
Well, it is a remake of Metroid II. I guess they couldn't stray from the source material
too much. sillydood;
they did try to stir things up slightly, but it still ultimately does have that same problem of repetitive metroid boss fights yeah