If not, will someone else give us universal healthcare? And, what are your views on universal healthcare?
I think it might be a good idea if done right, I mean, it might make the drug companies stop bugging is about how their products will make us perfect (side effects me include death), but thats just me
Universal healthcare is an excellent idea. Unfortunately, Hillary Clinton doesn't seem to give a shit about it.
I, for one, think the idea of companies profiting off of people's illnesses is absolutely appalling. Too bad our country is governed by rich people who take health care for granted
Quote from: Houdini on December 29, 2007, 10:43:55 PM
Universal healthcare is an excellent idea. Unfortunately, Hillary Clinton doesn't seem to give a shit about it.
She DID, but the government silenced her
Quote from: ZACK777 IS MUDKIPZ on December 29, 2007, 10:45:55 PM
She DID, but the government silenced her
Oh yeah, I forgot about the whole Clinton health care thing. It's a shame, especially considering she's likely to become the Democratic candidate.
Kucinich and Obama both support universal healthcare.
A president can't give us anything. We need congress to give us it, and they just approve it.
I doubt Hilary will really do much for our nation. Sadly, she's the most likely one to win.
Hmm, I've always wanted to live in Canada or England for a while, so here's a chance.
Quote from: Co-Z on December 30, 2007, 07:37:39 AM
I doubt Hilary will really do much for our nation. Sadly, she's the most likely one to win.
Hmm, I've always wanted to live in Canada or England for a while, so here's a chance.
I'll come wub;
I don't think I've ever actually heard I person say anything like, "Gee, I really hope Hillary wins!"
It is a true befuddlement to me as to how she is winning befuddlement
Quote from: JMV290 on December 30, 2007, 06:35:04 PM
nigraz like bill clinton
bill clinton =/= hillary clinton
Quote from: Houdini on December 30, 2007, 08:39:44 PM
bill clinton =/= hillary clinton
They are married though, so some of them will be likely to vote for her just because of that.
Quote from: JMV290 on December 30, 2007, 08:43:38 PM
They are married though, so some of them will be likely to vote for her just because of that.
What about Obama. He's black.
Quote from: Houdini on December 30, 2007, 08:46:32 PM
What about Obama. He's black.
that's why others will vote for him.
For a lot of black democrats, they're confused. It's like, "Let's put a niggah in da office!" but it's also, "Bill Clinton is DA MAN!"
Some people support Hilary 'cuz they like Bill. But Bill won't have power in office really :/
Quote from: Your Posting Rival on December 30, 2007, 12:29:04 PM
I don't think I've ever actually heard I person say anything like, "Gee, I really hope Hillary wins!"
It is a true befuddlement to me as to how she is winning befuddlement
There's this girl in some my classes that almost no one likes. She's nosy, stuck up, and has that familiar circle of friends that are almost like her. And she wears a Hilary support shirt occasionally. I doubt she really knows the true details about the runners in the election. (Then again, neither do I) But if you tried to argue with her, I'm almost positive she'd be an uneducated ass about it. befuddlement
Quote from: Trini on December 31, 2007, 03:29:09 PM
There's this girl in some my classes that almost no one likes. She's nosy, stuck up, and has that familiar circle of friends that are almost like her. And she wears a Hilary support shirt occasionally. I doubt she really knows the true details about the runners in the election. (Then again, neither do I) But if you tried to argue with her, I'm almost positive she'd be an uneducated ass about it. befuddlement
It doesn't really matter, seeing as though she probably can't vote.
Dude, if Hitlary becomes president I'll.....i dunno. something bad. really bad.
Quote from: helter on December 31, 2007, 04:19:50 PM
Dude, if Hitlary becomes president I'll.....i dunno. something bad. really bad.
At first I thought you made a typo, but then I saw you did there and I lol'd.
Quote from: helter on December 31, 2007, 04:19:50 PM
Dude, if Hitlary becomes president I'll.....i dunno. something bad. really bad.
It can't be that bad... can it?
Quote from: ZACK777 IS MUDKIPZ on December 29, 2007, 09:51:59 PM
If not, will someone else give us universal healthcare? And, what are your views on universal healthcare?
I think it might be a good idea if done right, I mean, it might make the drug companies stop bugging is about how their products will make us perfect (side effects me include death), but thats just me
I doubt if she's still on that...
Quote from: helter on December 31, 2007, 04:19:50 PM
Dude, if Hitlary becomes president I'll.....i dunno. something bad. really bad.
.... Why?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Democratic party manages to keep their majority in Congress.
I don't really want it, since I don't trust the government as far as I can throw it, and putting them in control of something like health care scares the hell out of me.
That said, insurance companies are complete assholes who do put profits before people and it's absolutely disgusting when you consider the lobbying they do. So here's my modest proposal so that uninsured people that genuinely can't afford it on their own to get it:
[QUOTE]
All tax money from the sale of alcohol and tobacco go into money for it.
We abolish needless federal agencies like the Department of Education, Department of Commerce, and slim down others like the FCC, merge the FTC/SEC, ect. Leftover money goes towards this.
We make medical costs tax-deductible.[/QUOTE]
Doubt this would happen though.
No. The world would just go in flames.
Quote from: ZACK777 IS MUDKIPZ on December 29, 2007, 10:45:55 PM
She DID, but the government silenced her
More like the health companies paid her to shut up and she gave in. But yeah I guess politicians hated on her too.
I am not really sure what other politicians are planning. I think most are coming up with some sort of optional government healthcare where you pay an extra tax of some sort. I can't remember exactly the details, but I don't think anyone is suggesting full universal quite yet. Someone please correct me if I am mistaken, thanks.
No. She will not become president. If she does, she'l get assassinated.
Quote from: M!ppo on January 05, 2008, 11:38:18 PM
No. She will not become president. If she does, she'l get assassinated.
Um, why would she get assassinated?
Quote from: Houdini on January 06, 2008, 12:57:24 AM
Um, why would she get assassinated?
Because, A) There was probably some fluke in the system, because Hilary Clinton is THE WORST possible Candidate for president, and B) Some old country man who believes that women shouldn't have equal rights (Even though they should, They shouldn't bitch endlessly about it) and kill her.
It WILL happen. I bet you.
Quote from: M!ppo on January 06, 2008, 07:18:56 AM
Because, A) There was probably some fluke in the system, because Hilary Clinton is THE WORST possible Candidate for president, and B) Some old country man who believes that women shouldn't have equal rights (Even though they should, They shouldn't bitch endlessly about it) and kill her.
It WILL happen. I bet you.
It's possible, but the same is possible for Obama.
Quote from: Siddhartha on January 06, 2008, 09:32:23 AM
It's possible, but the same is possible for Obama.
I dont like Obama either. I think he has a great audacity for trying to be the first black president. But most people will ONLY vote for him JUST because he's black. They wont know anything about his views. but he's black. So that just
automatically makes him, you know, right about everything.
Quote from: M!ppo on January 06, 2008, 11:27:19 AM
I dont like Obama either. I think he has a great audacity for trying to be the first black president. But most people will ONLY vote for him JUST because he's black. They wont know anything about his views. but he's black. So that just automatically makes him, you know, right about everything.
And George Washington had the audacity to try to become the first white president.
Also, I really doubt the south looks at it that way psyduck;
Quote from: Your Posting Rival on January 06, 2008, 12:06:19 PM
And George Washington had the audacity to try to become the first white president.
Also, I really doubt the south looks at it that way psyduck;
When George Washington was president, I dont think there was an apparent issue about all this "equal rights" crap.
Quote from: M!ppo on January 06, 2008, 12:07:58 PM
When George Washington was president, I dont think there was an apparent issue about all this "equal rights" crap.
So if people were so inclined to hand black people the presidency on a silver plate how come none have ever won it?
Quote from: Your Posting Rival on January 06, 2008, 12:10:30 PM
So if people were so inclined to hand black people the presidency on a silver plate how come none have ever won it?
Because America is racist.
Quote from: M!ppo on January 06, 2008, 12:14:17 PM
Because America is racist.
Exactly, so it's really not going to help him that much.
Hell, even some Black people say they won't vote for him because he's not Black enough
Quote from: Your Posting Rival on January 06, 2008, 12:15:29 PM
Exactly, so it's really not going to help him that much.
Hell, even some Black people say they won't vote for him because he's not Black enough
Meh. I guess.
Quote from: M!ppo on January 06, 2008, 11:27:19 AM
I dont like Obama either. I think he has a great audacity for trying to be the first black president. But most people will ONLY vote for him JUST because he's black. They wont know anything about his views. but he's black. So that just automatically makes him, you know, right about everything.
Remember when Al Sharpton was running for president in 2004? He didn't even make it to Democratic candidacy, and I'm pretty sure he's black.
Quote from: M!ppo on January 06, 2008, 12:07:58 PM
When George Washington was president, I dont think there was an apparent issue about all this "equal rights" crap.
Oh yes, giving a black man the same rights as a white man is crap.
Quote from: M!ppo on January 06, 2008, 12:14:17 PM
Because America is racist.
We needed the homophobe to point this out, right?
Quote from: M!ppo on January 06, 2008, 11:27:19 AM
I dont like Obama either. I think he has a great audacity for trying to be the first black president. But most people will ONLY vote for him JUST because he's black. They wont know anything about his views. but he's black. So that just automatically makes him, you know, right about everything.
Just like feminazis vote for Hilldog cause she's womyn. Care?
Quote from: JMV290 on January 06, 2008, 06:00:56 PM
Oh yes, giving a black man the same rights as a white man is crap.
We needed the homophobe to point this out, right?
No, it isnt crap, but to the extent that he gets more rights than I do just because he's black. Well, I guess we did the same. Meh. Whatever.
Why do you keep calling me a homophobe? I'm not saying "zomg gheys nead diss enfektint too dee stairulize them." I just dont want gays hitting on me.
Quote from: M!ppo on January 06, 2008, 07:11:49 PM
No, it isnt crap, but to the extent that he gets more rights than I do just because he's black. Well, I guess we did the same. Meh. Whatever.
I see no blacks with more rights than the whites.
Quote
Why do you keep calling me a homophobe? I'm not saying "zomg gheys nead diss enfektint too dee stairulize them." I just dont want gays hitting on me.
You said, and I quote, "You're only mad because I think gays are wrong, and should not be allowed in America." That's homophobia.
Quote from: JMV290 on January 06, 2008, 07:16:53 PM
I see no blacks with more rights than the whites.
You said, and I quote, "You're only mad because I think gays are wrong, and should not be allowed in America." That's homophobia.
Actually, blacks do have more rights. If I was black, and wasn't offered something because I wasn't
good enough, I can yell "Thats racist!!!11!1one11!", and usually I'll get what I had wanted.
And, I guess so. I dont care.
Hillary is trying too hard to make everyone equal and in the end it'll just reduce the value of the dollar. I don't like her that much from what I've seen. I mean I don't know much about any of the candidates but I'd choose Obama so far. I probably won't vote this year, though I can, because I don't think I should since I don't know too much about anyone.
Obama is a little unexperienced and hasn't proven any of his words but Hillary seems like she'll reduce the value of the dollar. Remember baby bonds?
Quote from: M!ppo on January 06, 2008, 11:27:19 AM
I dont like Obama either. I think he has a great audacity for trying to be the first black president. But most people will ONLY vote for him JUST because he's black. They wont know anything about his views. but he's black. So that just automatically makes him, you know, right about everything.
I don't think Obama will win BECAUSE he's black, not he will win because he is black.
People don't vote for someone because of their appearance, they DON'T vote for him because of his appearance if anything.
Quote from: M!ppo on January 06, 2008, 08:29:30 PM
Actually, blacks do have more rights. If I was black, and wasn't offered something because I wasn't good enough, I can yell "Thats racist!!!11!1one11!", and usually I'll get what I had wanted.
And, I guess so. I dont care.
um so where are these cases where these dam negros do this
Quote from: Andrew1911 on January 06, 2008, 11:42:24 PM
um so where are these cases where these dam negros do this
It's apparent in my school, as well as some parts of Atlanta.
Quote from: ZACK777 IS MUDKIPZ on January 07, 2008, 12:58:18 PM
Welcome to Atlanta where the playas play
And we ride on them things like every day
Big beats, hit streets, see gangsta's roamin'
And parties dont stop til' eight in the mornin'
I laughed but that shit doesn't belong in serious discussion.
Quote from: M!ppo on January 07, 2008, 09:35:29 AM
It's apparent in my school, as well as some parts of Atlanta.
hey i can make unsupported claims too
there are white people at my college who say that they are hurt by racism all the time
one poor white guy wasnt hired by a black guy because the white guy said he was a filthy cracker
Quote from: M!ppo on January 06, 2008, 08:29:30 PM
Actually, blacks do have more rights. If I was black, and wasn't offered something because I wasn't good enough, I can yell "Thats racist!!!11!1one11!", and usually I'll get what I had wanted.
And, I guess so. I dont care.
...No, no you can't
If Hillary Clinton becomes President, I'm heading for the hills.
Quote from: Co-Z on December 30, 2007, 09:17:24 PM
For a lot of black democrats, they're confused. It's like, "Let's put a niggah in da office!" but it's also, "Bill Clinton is DA MAN!"
Some people support Hilary 'cuz they like Bill. But Bill won't have power in office really :/
To our knowledge he won't... But chances are he will butt in somehow if Hillary is elected. I can't imagine him not.
Quote from: Siddhartha on March 17, 2008, 04:01:41 PM
To our knowledge he won't... But chances are he will butt in somehow if Hillary is elected. I can't imagine him not.
Yep. It's likely.
Unless Hill is like "FUCK U BILL, IMA DO IT MASELF"
Quote from: Co-Z on December 30, 2007, 09:17:24 PM
But Bill won't have power in office really :/
When Hilary's crying like a little bitch, the man's gotta step up.
Hello there fellow Boyah members! I am new here.
I really don't think that Hillary Clinton's health care program is a good idea. It would increase taxes on people that make i think over $200,000 a year and give crappy service to everyone, even the people that have the potential to pays for better service. I don't want to wait two months for emergency surgery when i could have it this or the next day. We all want everyone to have good health care, but i'm sure there's another way. :)
Quote from: :atomsk: on March 26, 2008, 07:23:33 AM
It would increase taxes on people that make i think over $200,000 a year...
and as we all know those people are struggling enough already doodthing;
Quote from: :atomsk: on March 26, 2008, 07:23:33 AM
Hello there fellow Boyah members! I am new here.
I really don't think that Hillary Clinton's health care program is a good idea. It would increase taxes on people that make i think over $200,000 a year and give crappy service to everyone, even the people that have the potential to pays for better service. I don't want to wait two months for emergency surgery when i could have it this or the next day. We all want everyone to have good health care, but i'm sure there's another way. :)
What...? That's the biggest load of bull I have heard in a while.
Quote from: :atomsk: on March 26, 2008, 07:23:33 AM
It would increase taxes on people that make i think over $200,000 a year
This wouldn't be a problem if Bush hadn't resurrected reaganomics.
Quote from: Houdini on March 26, 2008, 08:50:45 PM
This wouldn't be a problem if Bush hadn't resurrected reaganomics.
I don't know what reaganomics is...
Quote from: Zyphet on March 26, 2008, 05:08:24 PM
What...? That's the biggest load of bull I have heard in a while.
Please explain why you think that. I'm not trying to be rude, i'm just interested in your views.
Quote from: Commodore Guff on March 26, 2008, 01:28:32 PM
and as we all know those people are struggling enough already doodthing;
Ya, and I want to be a doctor... so i might be one of those people.
Quote from: :atomsk: on April 02, 2008, 07:42:21 PM
Please explain why you think that. I'm not trying to be rude, i'm just interested in your views.
Views? It has nothing to do with views. It is complete bullshit. No industrialized country with free healthcare forces a citizen to wait two weeks for an emergency surgery.
Quote from: :atomsk: on April 02, 2008, 07:38:56 PM
I don't know what reaganomics is...
The idea is that by giving tax cuts to the rich, the money will work its way down to the less affluent. The obvious flaw of this system is that the rich already sit on massive stacks of cash that they don't spend.
Quote from: Commodore Guff on March 26, 2008, 01:28:32 PM
and as we all know those people are struggling enough already doodthing;
Thats not it, it'll increase the taxes while giving a free plan of healthcare that sucks balls.
Quote from: reefer on April 02, 2008, 08:50:45 PM
Thats not it, it'll increase the taxes while giving a free plan of healthcare that sucks balls.
Ya, i know. That sucks so much.
Quote from: Houdini on April 02, 2008, 08:50:04 PM
The idea is that by giving tax cuts to the rich, the money will work its way down to the less affluent. The obvious flaw of this system is that the rich already sit on massive stacks of cash that they don't spend.
Hmm.. very true.
Quote from: Zyphet on April 02, 2008, 07:45:45 PM
Views? It has nothing to do with views. It is complete bullshit. No industrialized country with free healthcare forces a citizen to wait two weeks for an emergency surgery.
Well, i exagerated some. But I want the most efficient healthcare availiable, and if I can pay for it, why should I be stuck with the same crappy plan as evryone else?
Quote from: :atomsk: on April 03, 2008, 06:47:16 AM
Well, i exagerated some. But I want the most efficient healthcare availiable, and if I can pay for it, why should I be stuck with the same crappy plan as evryone else?
That's why mixing privatized with socialized healthcare is the best option. jsr;
Quote from: JMV on April 03, 2008, 06:58:58 AM
That's why mixing privatized with socialized healthcare is the best option. jsr;
sounds yes to me.
Quote from: reefer on April 02, 2008, 08:50:45 PM
Thats not it, it'll increase the taxes while giving a free plan of healthcare that sucks balls.
who says it would suck balls
Quote from: :atomsk: on April 02, 2008, 07:44:20 PM
Ya, and I want to be a doctor...
wait, you're right
it will suck baddood;
Quote from: :atomsk: on April 03, 2008, 09:30:54 AM
sounds yes to me.
I concur. A mix would be nice, and I am hoping that's what Obama will go through with.
Quote from: Zyphet on April 03, 2008, 02:38:39 PM
I concur. A mix would be nice, and I am hoping that's what Obama will go through with.
That Rev. Wright thing still bothers me... but that's a whole different topic.
Quote from: Commodore Guff on April 03, 2008, 05:38:50 PM
why
Because the pastor is actually Obama's secret political adviser.
Quote from: Zyphet on April 03, 2008, 05:58:36 PM
Because the pastor is actually Obama's secret political adviser.
Well, i wouoldn't go that far. But i don't think Obama can be such good buds with this guy and not share some of his political views. I just don't buy it.
Quote from: :atomsk: on April 03, 2008, 09:08:57 PM
Well, i wouoldn't go that far. But i don't think Obama can be such good buds with this guy and not share some of his political views. I just don't buy it.
I have Christian friends but I absolutely despise their beliefs.
Quote from: :atomsk: on April 03, 2008, 09:08:57 PM
Well, i wouoldn't go that far. But i don't think Obama can be such good buds with this guy and not share some of his political views. I just don't buy it.
I was being sarcastic. baddood;
Also I have a couple of crazy right wing friends, it doesn't stop me from liking them.
Quote from: :atomsk: on April 03, 2008, 09:08:57 PM
But i don't think Obama can be such good buds with this guy and not share some of his political views. I just don't buy it.
i think you should be more open minded doodthing;
on a side note, i've always thought that the controversy over this pastor is a tad overblown
much of what was repeated ad nauseam didn't seem all that insane to me; the only thing that might have been scary was an angry black man yelling
also, there's quite a few videos on the youtubes that show how at least some of the excerpts were taken out of context doodthing;
The whole Obama pastor thing is such garbage. It's a complete heap of BS propaganda hype and the American public is fucking stupid for caring.
Quote from: Houdini on April 04, 2008, 07:04:29 PM
The whole Obama pastor thing is such garbage. It's a complete heap of BS propaganda hype and the American public is fucking stupid for caring.
I also must wonder where the outrage was when Bush and other conservatives met with truly bigoted fuckheads like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.
Quote from: Zeta on April 04, 2008, 10:02:16 PM
I also must wonder where the outrage was when Bush and other conservatives met with truly bigoted fuckheads like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.
The media's to blame, of course.
Quote from: YPargh on December 30, 2007, 12:29:04 PM
I don't think I've ever actually heard I person say anything like, "Gee, I really hope Hillary wins!"
It is a true befuddlement to me as to how she is winning befuddlement
TEN FUCKING YEARS
I should be the democratic party's political advisor hocuspocus;