FUCK USB C

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Tec stop spreading lies that Apple is cool, Jobs is dead

[bluaki]

i've made a discovery

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BlDSJS73yEAJ:lifehacker.com/cables-can-significantly-impact-the-charging-speed-of-y-1532784722+&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

That explains so much.

it's no wonder every single replacement cable in my house seems to charge devices at half the speed of oem cables

I just bought this nice metallic pink braided cable from aliexpress, only to discover that after a full night of charging my phone was only at around 75%.

why in god's name do there need to be so many usb standards, some of which seem completely useless

why isn't every single usb cable being manufactured today of the 28/24 gauge variety

what could possibly be the advantage of the 28/28 gauge standard

it should not be this difficult to buy a single fully functional cable, the usb situation is simply inexcusably confusing

USB-C fixes* this. Every USB-C cable (C-C, C-A, and C-Micro) is required by the USB spec to support up to 3A. With USB-PD that means up to 60W. But it's not perfectly simple: some USB-C cables (C-C only) can support more than that, up to 5A (100W), which only matters to higher-power devices like the 87W 15" MacBook Pro. And some uncertified longer cables on the market don't meet this 3A requirement because the manufacturer designed a 3ft cable with a good gauge but then simply extended the cable to 6ft without increasing the thickness.

But yes, with microUSB and every other type of USB cable made before USB-C was introduced, you can expect every cable to support at least 0.5A (USB 2.0) or 0.9A (USB 3.0), but anything above that is optional. Only a few of my microUSB cables support even 1.5A let alone the full 2.4A that iPad and Anker chargers provide.

QC can destroy a DS4? I didn't know about that. I've never owned any QuickCharge chargers or devices and would prefer to keep it that way.

yep, there are reports of ds4 controllers being ruined by quickcharge all over the internet

but why would you prefer to avoid quickcharge lol

Because USB-PD exists now and is all-around better
Because QuickCharge does weird things that USB forbids which causes problems with DS4 and other devices
Because it's yet another class of incompatible accessories that won't interoperate well with anything I own
Because it's vendor lock-in
Because its revisions happen so often that they become obsolete even faster than other types of chargers

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[Kalahari Inkantation]

i've made a discovery

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BlDSJS73yEAJ:lifehacker.com/cables-can-significantly-impact-the-charging-speed-of-y-1532784722+&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

That explains so much.

it's no wonder every single replacement cable in my house seems to charge devices at half the speed of oem cables

I just bought this nice metallic pink braided cable from aliexpress, only to discover that after a full night of charging my phone was only at around 75%.

why in god's name do there need to be so many usb standards, some of which seem completely useless

why isn't every single usb cable being manufactured today of the 28/24 gauge variety

what could possibly be the advantage of the 28/28 gauge standard

it should not be this difficult to buy a single fully functional cable, the usb situation is simply inexcusably confusing

USB-C fixes* this. Every USB-C cable (C-C, C-A, and C-Micro) is required by the USB spec to support up to 3A. With USB-PD that means up to 60W. But it's not perfectly simple: some USB-C cables (C-C only) can support more than that, up to 5A (100W), which only matters to higher-power devices like the 87W 15" MacBook Pro.

thank christ

And some uncertified longer cables on the market don't meet this 3A requirement because the manufacturer designed a 3ft cable with a good gauge but then simply extended the cable to 6ft without increasing the thickness.

ugh

But yes, with microUSB and every other type of USB cable made before USB-C was introduced, you can expect every cable to support at least 0.5A (USB 2.0) or 0.9A (USB 3.0), but anything above that is optional. Only a few of my microUSB cables support even 1.5A let alone the full 2.4A that iPad and Anker chargers provide.

and it only took me years of cable frustration to finally learn this

[Kalahari Inkantation]

but why would you prefer to avoid quickcharge lol

Because USB-PD exists now and is all-around better
Because QuickCharge does weird things that USB forbids which causes problems with DS4 and other devices
Because it's yet another class of incompatible accessories that won't interoperate well with anything I own
Because it's vendor lock-in
Because its revisions happen so often that they become obsolete even faster than other types of chargers

i probably should have been more clear, i was using "quickcharge" as if it were a genericized trademark

i probably should be saying 'fast charge' instead to avoid confusion

and there are, of course, far better implementations of fast charge technology than Qualcomm Quick Chargeâ,,¢, which i would not at all doubt is mediocre

in fact, qualcomm in general is consistently the most mediocre-at-best of the major mobile cpu designers

i go out of my way to avoid qualcomm phones, so i've never even actually used its implementation of fast charge lol

but i have used, for example, intel's, and intel's has never caused me any trouble

[Kalahari Inkantation]

Tec stop spreading lies that Apple is cool, Jobs is dead

but jobs and his ghost would never, EVER allow for apple's approved oems to sell vastly inferior cables to save themselves a nickel per cable, at the clear cost of the user experience

very much unlike the careless usb coalition

that's what makes apple cool :'(

[bluaki]

i probably should have been more clear, i was using "quickcharge" as if it were a genericized trademark

i probably should be saying 'fast charge' instead to avoid confusion

and there are, of course, far better implementations of fast charge technology than Qualcomm Quick Chargeâ,,¢, which i would not at all doubt is mediocre

Samsung Adaptive Fast Charge and Motorola's TurboPower (the older non USB-C version) both are reverse-engineered imitations of Qualcomm QuickCharge, so they suffer from the same issues or worse.

USB-C "fast charging" is pretty nice. You can expect basically every USB-C phone to support at least 15W (5V/3A) with the same standard charger, though the bundled chargers vary since Samsung/LG/HTC still bundle QuickCharge chargers instead while Google/Motorola/Sony seem to prefer standard USB-C. Pixel and other future high-end phones use USB-PD for 18W or more.

I have a bunch of USB-C chargers for both phones and laptops. I also own some non-QuickCharge USB-A chargers with pretty good speeds, like the iPad charger and some Anker ones which all support 2.4A (12W).

side note: Google's Pixel charger works fantastic with Switch, just as fast as Nintendo's charger, but unlike Nintendo's charger it's a lot less bulky and actually works with USB-C phones without problems

in fact, qualcomm in general is consistently the most mediocre-at-best of the major mobile cpu designers

i go out of my way to avoid qualcomm phones, so i've never even actually used its implementation of fast charge lol

but i have used, for example, intel's, and intel's has never caused me any trouble

Qualcomm beats MediaTek, but Samsung and Apple are better than both.
Thanks to Qualcomm's patent and licensing nonsense, Samsung can't even use their own Exynos chipsets in the US, and they're not allowed to license their own chipsets to other manufacturers
Intel and TI mobile chipsets are dead, Apple will never give their chipset to an Android phone

Exynos probably has a little hope in the US in the future when CDMA is finally dead (until then, importing is an option for GSM users), but not on any phone I'll ever buy since I don't like Samsung's software. The only other hope left for avoiding Qualcomm is Google's rumored work in making its own chipset.

[Kalahari Inkantation]

Qualcomm beats MediaTek, but Samsung and Apple are better than both.

don't forget huawei

the kirin series consistently destroys the firebreathing scrapdragons (even before they destroy themselves)

Thanks to Qualcomm's patent and licensing nonsense, Samsung can't even use their own Exynos chipsets in the US

this absolutely kills me

samsung phones are worse in the us than they are anywhere else in the world because of ancient tech standards and qualcomm being its usual garbage self

Intel and TI mobile chipsets are dead

it's funny to think that i caused this

>buy phone with texas instruments soc in 2013
>ti permanently withdraws from the smartphone industry soon thereafter

>buy phone with intel soc in 2015
>intel permanently withdraws from the smartphone industry soon thereafter

...Maybe I should buy a Qualcomm device next.

Exynos probably has a little hope in the US in the future when CDMA is finally dead (until then, importing is an option for GSM users)

and hopefully it dies soon because it really is holding the entire american sh*tphone industry back

The only other hope left for avoiding Qualcomm is Google's rumored work in making its own chipset.

and i pray to the gods that this rumour proves true

qualcomm desperately needs competition within android within the us