so obama actually ISN'T going to veto NDAA

[Walter]

im voting for nayder still lol

that guy is still trying wtf?

[PLEASEHELP1991]

I'm voting for [REDACTED]
firm supporter of the australian ballot here

[snoorkel]

ron paul doesn't believe in seperation of church and state fyi he thinks that it should be "the state's decision" inb4 religious troops patrolling street. that alone is enough for me to not vote for him

not that I really agree with the philosophy of that but I think the idea, in the Paulian philosophy, is to delegate as much power as possible to states. like in an ideal united states (i am aware the articles of confederation existed).

like, sure, alabama can have a governor-bishop, and california can continue to worship money and pot. what's the problem, why should i get to make ethical decisions about people i will never talk to in my life?

[Walter]

alabama can have a governor-bishop...what's the problem

lol

[snoorkel]

lol

no srs, I don't live in alabama or know anyone there so I don't feel like I should have the right to tell them they shouldn't value religion if they really want to, and I also don't want them making laws about issues that only affect where I live (mexicans and pot). either have no laws, or do this, seems like a viable solution to actually enforce democracy

[YPrrrr]

I guess... but he does support the Israeli occupation of Gaza and such so that isn't so great in terms of foreign policy

Doesn't he also emphasize less us support for Israel? Or maybe that was some wonderful dream I had

[silvertone]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iFsyaljotNCsnPSzq9tjRtOkPKZg?docId=e3c1b02ccc1a42b78e94120a4a2f53a5 ffadsffcvx

[Walter]

enforce democracy

lol ok bro ok

[Daddy]

no srs, I don't live in alabama or know anyone there so I don't feel like I should have the right to tell them they shouldn't value religion if they really want to, and I also don't want them making laws about issues that only affect where I live (mexicans and pot). either have no laws, or do this, seems like a viable solution to actually enforce democracy

But why stop at the state line?


Why should voters in Suffolk County decide the laws here in Essex County?

Why stop at the county?

Why should voters in Salem decide the laws here in Lynn?

City?


Why should voters in That ward decide the laws in this ward?



Not saying that I don't see your point but why is State the threshold for laws when different wards of a city can have variances in their laws?

[snoorkel]

But why stop at the state line?


Why should voters in Suffolk County decide the laws here in Essex County?

Why stop at the county?

Why should voters in Salem decide the laws here in Lynn?

City?


Why should voters in That ward decide the laws in this ward?



Not saying that I don't see your point but why is State the threshold for laws when different wards of a city can have variances in their laws?

I'm actually completely in support of city-states and have always thought that the USA should be divided into 'super states' based roughly on economic regions that join together in some loosely regulated but mutually agreed-upon confederation for purposes of national defense and foreign trade

[Walter]

I'm actually completely in support of city-states and have always thought that the USA should be divided into 'super states' based roughly on economic regions that join together in some loosely regulated but mutually agreed-upon confederation for purposes of national defense and foreign trade

But what if one city is radical and forms an army and attacks a nearby city? What then Mister? Who will step in to stop it? Give them enough power and its bound to happen somewhere, just look at what the fed does with power. We are invading pretty much every country on the planet.

[Daddy]

I think the West Texan Union should invade the socali federation because there are so many fags.

[snoorkel]

But what if one city is radical and forms an army and attacks a nearby city? What then Mister? Who will step in to stop it? Give them enough power and its bound to happen somewhere, just look at what the fed does with power. We are invading pretty much every country on the planet.

obviously I'm not talking about replicating the politics of athens and sparta, someone would have to use their big ol brain to figure out fair and enforceable inter-city regulations that would disencourage civil wars (this shouldn't be difficult considering we have the internet and are no longer concerned with winning land for the sake of raping the native population)

[Walter]

(this shouldn't be difficult considering we have the internet and are no longer concerned with winning land for the sake of raping the native population)

Speak for yourself.

[snoorkel]

Speak for yourself.

ok ive concluded you are trolling my band