To all the collage students

[Samus Aran]

choose to be a teacher the first time around

i don't exactly regret getting a different degree first but it certainly is a bit of a waste of time and money to have to go extra semesters

[silvertone]

Not been such a Passive Indifferent Asshole about it

[vulpix]

I think "results may vary" is the phrase you're looking for

i don't understand what kind of person would rather be passively told what to learn than to actively discover the complexity and beauty of the world by themselves.  results only vary if you respect yourself little enough to not care about building your mind, which is the point of....everything.

[YPrrrr]

i don't understand what kind of person would rather be passively told what to learn than to actively discover the complexity and beauty of the world by themselves.  results only vary if you respect yourself little enough to not care about building your mind, which is the point of....everything.

Yes, unfortunately with all of these classes I've lacked the time to explore the complexity and beauty of pretentious bigotry like you have.

To say you don't build your mind in college is ludicrous. Sure you might not be able to learn of everything you want to from a professor, but a good majority of it is there and you have a chance to explore opportunities you otherwise may not have. And if you don't care about going to college I don't understand why the limitations should matter considering if you cared enough you could still go out and learn about said mysteries of life anyway.

[Samus Aran]

It's your own damn fault if you just sit there and learn what's required of you and not look further into it. It's not the college's fault.

[Hippopo]

So today I had to meet with a new advisor to apply for graduation because my old advisor got fired (LOL ).

I learned that I don't meet the requirements for graduation by eight credits because my old advisor forgot to mention that I needed 40 credits of 300 level classes or above. WTF

So instead of having a nice leisurely last semester, I will have to take three 400 level classes in Philosophy and two 300 level outside of the department.... 

I met with my old advisor 8 times last year and I constantly asked if I was meeting all of the requirements.  That fucking bitch lied.

[Kalahari Inkantation]

collage sounds like an awful and horrifying place

[spoiler]i'm glad i left [/spoiler]

[Hippopo]

collage sounds like an awful and horrifying place

[spoiler]i'm glad i left [/spoiler]

But.. I thought you still go. 

[PLEASEHELP1991]

An undergraduate degree today is what a high school diploma was thirty years ago at many universities. It is an essential job qualification for a lot of entry-level jobs. I really think there needs to be more regulations on tertiary educational institutions such as the regulation of tuition charged by publicly funded institutions and more safety regulations as the enforcement of the Clery Act rarely amounts to anything more than a slap on the wrist.

[Patrick Stickles]

it's my first semester and i'm studying history at a school i'm satisfied with

but this semester i thought i'd look into the classical world and study roman civlization

fuck those guys

if i wanted to learn about a bunch of italian assholes who ruin everything for everyone, i would watch jersey shore

this is my favorite thing ever

[Mando Pandango]

Going back, I should have realized I wasn't at a point in my life where college was the logical next step. It wasn't. I still don't think it is.

[??????]

i've had no regrets so far because i get schooling for free

starting in the winter i'll apply for an art school
then i can socialize with other art students and then i'd have artsy friends and i'd use them to build up a network so I can have a job while i cry and complain how i'm being 'exploited'

so far i've only made friends with music people
if i'm lucky i could go to some art colony when i'm older
hopefully my friends who wrote letters of recommendations don't commit suicide/die by then

[Socks]

It's very rare that character outpaces information. What you 'learn' in school is not what has been 'taught'. And it is not the 'teaching' that allows you to learn.

You learn what your conscience is developed enough to understand. You really must build up the core first. If a person has no understanding of what proper attention is, or what practice entails, if they are not mature enough to realize those virtues, and to respect and adopt them, then no amount of lecturing, notes, reading or showing will motivate or inspire them. Waiting for what is enticing. Not what they need but what they want. To hell with consideration! Unleash the stimulation.

They simply don't know how to interpret life, because they have yet to reach that point. Internally. How would all the facts and presentation in the world help a man who does not know how to use that wealth of knowledge?

And that's not something that school can teach you. You have to learn from your parents and through society, which should provide you with the right environment to encourage and foster a sense of belonging and cultivate an effect of wisdom.

Is a teacher goig to tell you to look a man in the eyes, stand up straight and shake his hand, show humility and tend with care, and always part on good terms? That's just something you observe and recognize and learn.

It's not the rules which stopped me from cheating, it was my philosophy and integrity. But what is this, right? Can I define dignity? No. I can only embody it. It's not at all minor or irrelevant. I am constantly embarrassed with myself. How is school going to instill that?

The reflected mess of the present state is the mirror image of our dysfunctionality. You have to recognize, understand and realize the entire implications of any and all exerience to be able to digest it all.

Do you think a child can unrestand and handle a gun?

Legions are killing themselves because they are children with the biggest gun of all, life. Ignorance is lethal. It's astounding how much privilege and opportunity today's generation has, and how incredibly poorly it has managed it.

Perhaps we are spoiled. No need to ever branch out of our comfort zone and explore. To fend and survive on one's own. Do or die. To establish and thrive. We do not know this. We remain forever children. Much as Cicero said.

That's a natural disposition. But existence should be embraced, not endured. What's learned results from the experience of your character. If your character cannot property interpret reality, if it does not co-develop with history, then no amount of teaching will ever change that. You are then drowning in a waterfall.

The lessons and the courses and the materials and institutions and privileges and rights along with opportunity and advancement mean nothing to a little mind. You cannot comprehend the choices properly. You cannot appreciate their value nor fully conceived the consequences. You don't know what it really is, despite being involved with it and having life swirl around you. That is immaturity. And it is so prevalent among us.

How can someone understand instructions when they fail to listen?

We have created a culture that allows for a table of a dozen adults to possess numerous advanced degrees, masters and PhDs, chair committees and operate on men, and do not care to have a single sense of decency or the capacity to listen to their waiter introducing himself and welcoming them as well as explaining the menu. Not a single care that I blush out of an embarrasemt for them. Because it is a shame and I am being gracious. Saving face. Then have the audacity to tell me to repeat it again. That is what I mean by dignity. And will never think highly of that man. Because thouth he may be intelligent, he is still stupid. And has no humanity, which is more important than specialized application.

They act in accordance, which is pretentious. I act in line, which his prudent.
I serve out of duty and not of fear. There is no malice, there is shame in who I am.

And if this all seems like an incoherent rant. Huh, I will blame your learning for that. It's why you don't speak on the same terms as I do. And we seem worlds apart. When I am just like you. Very near. But see the same things in a whole different sort of view.

It's beautiful up here.