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fuck college.

Started by snoorkel, August 26, 2011, 04:19:06 PM

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silvertone

Colleges are free in Scotland too and i believe in Sweden they pay you to go to college.

snoorkel

Quote from: ,,,-,,, on August 26, 2011, 09:25:38 PM
What do you want to be?

doodhuh;

I want to learn. I make enough money to live from.

Quote from: silvertone on August 26, 2011, 10:27:56 PM
Colleges are free in Scotland too and i believe in Sweden they pay you to go to college.


I used to be very interested in enrolling abroad, but now I'm in CA and like it too much to leave.

silvertone

If you are going to do that you have to have really good grades and probably will need to pay for classes, unless you plan on staying in the country for a year or some set amount of time before enrolling. Even if you do pay for courses, it is still a lot cheaper than American college. It costs a foreigner 200 pounds for a whole degree in Uni of Glasgow.

applesauce

Isn't LMU a liberal arts school? I don't know why you are surprised by having to take a lot of random classes then.


I have yet to take a class not at least somewhat relevant to my major. Yay tech school, bitch.

Boogus Epirus Aurelius

I was absolutely disgusted with the majority of my classes last semester which was especially depressing because I’m very nearly down the home stretch. I expected high level classes in the course of study that I really am excited about to actually be stimulating interesting and comfortable.  Silly fucking me.

What I got was more textbook regurgitation from a few lifeless mannequins, and I had to be there because they were required courses.

Being more in the social sciences realm, I hate the fuck out of the prescribed textbooks as well and the professors that treat them like scripture. They wonder why class attendance is so low as they peddle the same highlighted definitions that any dope could read and memorize by themselves in their living room. Memorization is key.

There are obviously exceptions. I’ve had a handful of professors that are directly counter to the whole “system”, people I still keep in touch with. I can honestly thank my theory professor from last semester for giving me a little more faith in what higher education learning should be.

But for every one of those, there’s three of the former.

I just got an email today from a future professor who insists we buy the newest version of the textbook. I already bought the previous version for almost one hundred and fifty dollars less. Too bad.

I think students need to start demanding more out of their higher education. It’s not entitlement or anything. If I’m sinking a few grand a year into an education, I better feel like I’m getting something out of it. Too many people,  I think, are just satisfied with the marks, with the diploma, regardless of what they may or may not have experienced along the way.

The last year especially has left me with a terrible taste in my mouth.

snoorkel

Quote from: applesauce on August 26, 2011, 11:11:16 PM
Isn't LMU a liberal arts school? I don't know why you are surprised by having to take a lot of random classes then.

I have yet to take a class not at least somewhat relevant to my major. Yay tech school, bitch.


I think their business and film schools are the most well known, but they have as many science courses as other LA schools. I have to take random classes because they wouldn't let me register until today and now there are no more science classes available, not because they make me (I was planning on simply 'leaving them all for my jr/sr year' and then transferring).

Maybe I should apply to CalTech (but then I'd have to move to pasadena  akudood;)


Travis

Quote from: vziard on August 26, 2011, 10:35:05 PM
doodhuh;

I want to learn. I make enough money to live from.

so what happens when that fails and you have nothing to fall back on

applesauce

Have to tried waitlisting and then emailing professors or showing up to them anyways and being like " I want to take this, can I please?" I haven't had to do this yet, but from what I hear, people seem to have a 75% plus success rate.

Also can't you make the random classes be a minor you like?

bluaki

Quote from: applesauce on August 26, 2011, 11:11:16 PM
I have yet to take a class not at least somewhat relevant to my major. Yay tech school, bitch.
It's somewhat the same for me; all my classes are decided by the major, not by required classes for all students

Then I realized computer science majors here are required to take a few odd things throughout the four years:
Composition, Psychology, Literature, Civilization, Civilization 2, a social science elective, a humanities elective, and a few science electives
The three humanities classes in particular seem completely unrelated to computer science doodhuh;

snoorkel

Quote from: Travis on August 27, 2011, 12:33:32 AM
so what happens when that fails and you have nothing to fall back on


I've been supporting myself for awhile, I don't think that will be a problem. In any case going to college to have a degree to 'fall back on' isn't part of my consideration. Another reason I'm rethinking everything is that classes at LMU would take a lot of time away from developing my business, which is doing incredibly well at the moment, so as a result I would have a much more limited ability to pay tuition. It doesn't make much sense.

Quote from: applesauce on August 27, 2011, 12:53:43 AM
Have to tried waitlisting and then emailing professors or showing up to them anyways and being like " I want to take this, can I please?" I haven't had to do this yet, but from what I hear, people seem to have a 75% plus success rate.

Also can't you make the random classes be a minor you like?


Yeah, I thought of this, but then I started thinking about how much money it is. The minors I would be interested in require the same pre-requisite classes as my major, and I can't take those yet.



applesauce

Quote from: vziard on August 27, 2011, 01:38:01 AM
Yeah, I thought of this, but then I started thinking about how much money it is. The minors I would be interested in require the same pre-requisite classes as my major, and I can't take those yet.



:(

Quote from: bluika on August 27, 2011, 01:24:33 AM
It's somewhat the same for me; all my classes are decided by the major, not by required classes for all students

Then I realized computer science majors here are required to take a few odd things throughout the four years:
Composition, Psychology, Literature, Civilization, Civilization 2, a social science elective, a humanities elective, and a few science electives
The three humanities classes in particular seem completely unrelated to computer science doodhuh;



Well yeah, but I'm at least able to pick things that are somewhat related to my major, and also end up with a useful minor that I'm interested in without anything extra. For example I'm filling my soc/hum requirements with things like "Chicago Politics", "US Urban History", and "The Ecological Basis of Planning", so I'll end up with an Urban Studies minor. It also helps that I had AP credit for us gov, euro, comp, lang, and us hist, so I really only have to take 2 300+ ss courses. I'm taking more because I want the minor anyways, and will quite possibly go on to get my Masters of Urban & Regional Planning. Also I might end up with a history minor as well, since I'll be only one class short of it, incidentally.

My school used to offer a BS City & Regional Planning. Wish they still did.  :'(

YPrrrr

Quote from: vziard on August 27, 2011, 12:14:31 AM

Maybe I should apply to CalTech (but then I'd have to move to pasadena  akudood;)


We could party at the Rose Parade together :O

Socks

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Quote from: vziard on August 27, 2011, 12:14:31 AM
Maybe I should apply to CalTech (but then I'd have to move to pasadena  akudood;)


Where do you live now?
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snoorkel

August 27, 2011, 08:59:40 PM #29 Last Edit: August 27, 2011, 09:27:43 PM by vziard
so when are we going to get 'open source' colleges where you can pay for specific classes and the credits are good for some sort of general accreditation regardless of where you get them, as long as the instructors are accredited  akudood;

Quote from: ,,,-,,, on August 27, 2011, 08:58:24 PM
Where do you live now?


the completely opposite side of LA

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