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Zeta

Quote from: KT on December 16, 2007, 07:55:34 PM
Because not everyone can type SUDO SUDO SUDO over again and shit.

Macs are well known, and supposedly easy to use. Linux isn't.


um ya BSDs use different commands. They aren't the same as GNU/Linux. Similar, but not the same.

Even then, where the fuck are you getting the idea you need sudo? Very little needs to be done from the terminal nowadays, and even then you can do everything you need to by just using su and logging in as a superuser so you don't need sudo. I've never bothered with it.

And I can tell you've never even touched it. This ease of use bullshit applies to any OS with a modern GUI. Luna, Aero, Aqua, GNOME, KDE, XFCE...quite honestly I see no difference in ease of use.


Infel

Quote from: Zeta on December 16, 2007, 08:26:44 PM
um ya BSDs use different commands. They aren't the same as GNU/Linux. Similar, but not the same.

Even then, where the fuck are you getting the idea you need sudo? Very little needs to be done from the terminal nowadays, and even then you can do everything you need to by just using su and logging in as a superuser so you don't need sudo. I've never bothered with it.

And I can tell you've never even touched it. This ease of use bullshit applies to any OS with a modern GUI. Luna, Aero, Aqua, GNOME, KDE, XFCE...quite honestly I see no difference in ease of use.


I would have expected you to cover both issues. I only see one. befuddlement

Zeta

SUDO SUDO SUDO: "Even then, where the fuck are you getting the idea you need sudo? Very little needs to be done from the terminal nowadays, and even then you can do everything you need to by just using su and logging in as a superuser so you don't need sudo. I've never bothered with it."

Ease of use: This ease of use bullshit applies to any OS with a modern GUI. Luna, Aero, Aqua, GNOME, KDE, XFCE...quite honestly I see no difference in ease of use.

Don't believe me? Go get a KDE4 RC. It can be used instead of Luna or Aero on Windows.

Infel

Quote from: Zeta on December 16, 2007, 08:35:38 PM
SUDO SUDO SUDO: "Even then, where the fuck are you getting the idea you need sudo? Very little needs to be done from the terminal nowadays, and even then you can do everything you need to by just using su and logging in as a superuser so you don't need sudo. I've never bothered with it."

Ease of use: This ease of use bullshit applies to any OS with a modern GUI. Luna, Aero, Aqua, GNOME, KDE, XFCE...quite honestly I see no difference in ease of use.

Don't believe me? Go get a KDE4 RC. It can be used instead of Luna or Aero on Windows.
You're still missing one thing. I guess free things just don't deserve the same attention, especially when it's users are all like you.

Zeta

You're an idiot if you think Linux isn't well known.

Even if it weren't, that doesn't make it crap like you say. And Linux isn't meant to be gratis, it's meant to be libre. Please learn what the free in Free Software truly means.

Blaze-Senpai

Quote from: Zeta on December 16, 2007, 07:49:56 PM
Why use OS X when you can use FreeBSD or GNU/Darwin for real?
Drivers.

Not everything works on Linux.

Infel

Quote from: Zeta on December 16, 2007, 08:40:51 PM
You're an idiot if you think Linux isn't well known.

Even if it weren't, that doesn't make it crap like you say. And Linux isn't meant to be gratis, it's meant to be libre. Please learn what the free in Free Software truly means.
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My god, why do I even try? You're an idiot.

Zeta

Quote from: Blaziken Prince on December 16, 2007, 08:41:39 PM
Drivers.

Not everything works on Linux.


Most stuff does. The only major problems right now are X-Fi and ATI cards. But AMD is allowing people to create their own drivers by releasing critical information, so the second one is null.

And Linux is not FreeBSD or GNU/Darwin. The BSDs are a completely different system than GNU/Linux, developed a different way, and hold very different freedom philosophies.

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My god, why do I even try? You're an idiot.[/QUOTE]

If I'm such an idiot, tell me...what did I miss? Come on, enlighten me.

Infel

Quote from: Zeta on December 16, 2007, 08:45:36 PM
If I'm such an idiot, tell me...what did I miss? Come on, enlighten me.
No, no, I'm an idiot, what was I thinking, going against the person who knows everything?

I'm gonna go cut myself now.

Zeta

Quote from: KT on December 16, 2007, 08:49:20 PM
No, no, I'm an idiot, what was I thinking, going against the person who knows everything?

I'm gonna go cut myself now.


Prove me wrong, then. Let's go.

Infel

Quote from: Zeta on December 16, 2007, 08:50:13 PM
Prove me wrong, then. Let's go.
Quote from: KT on December 16, 2007, 08:49:20 PM
No, no, I'm an idiot, what was I thinking, going against the person who knows everything?

I'm gonna go cut myself now.
Quote from: KT on December 16, 2007, 08:49:20 PM
No, no, I'm an idiot, what was I thinking, going against the person who knows everything?

I'm gonna go cut myself now.
Quote from: KT on December 16, 2007, 08:49:20 PM
No, no, I'm an idiot, what was I thinking, going against the person who knows everything?

I'm gonna go cut myself now.
You might as well be talking to thin air, now.

Zeta

Yeah, but the hot air is talking back.

ncba93ivyase

Quote from: Blaziken Prince on December 16, 2007, 08:41:39 PM
Drivers.

Not everything works on Linux.
Or simply personal preference.

I've used plenty of the most popular OSes, but the only one I've ever truly felt comfortable with is OS X. You can say, "Oh, _____ can run _____ which makes it looks just like a Mac," but it never really feels like a Mac and of course lacks native OS X apps.

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Blaze-Senpai

Quote from: Lawlz on December 17, 2007, 02:18:17 AM
Or simply personal preference.

I've used plenty of the most popular OSes, but the only one I've ever truly felt comfortable with is OS X. You can say, "Oh, _____ can run _____ which makes it looks just like a Mac," but it never really feels like a Mac and of course lacks native OS X apps.
I prefer Windows XP over everything else because I'm used to it. Nothing has changed since I was using 2000 and when I movd up it was easy to do. That, and everything I use Works on Windows.

Vista is another problem though.

guff

Quote from: Lawlz on December 17, 2007, 02:18:17 AM
Or simply personal preference.
woah woah woah what now psyduck;

Quote from: KT on December 16, 2007, 07:55:34 PM
Because not everyone can type SUDO SUDO SUDO over again and shit.
people who can't type four letters probably can't log in anyways

oh, and osx uses sudo, too psyduck;
most sane operating systems have some sort of privilege authorization software; if you don't like administrative privileges being limited to legit users, just log in as root all the time and see what happens

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